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dreadnatty08 said:
From where?
I love them from Washington state but they're generally pricey.
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Nothing special, just a Vins de Pays d'Oc (aka, mongrel vintage ;) )

I've either got an unsophisticated palate or an oeno-neurosis, but I much prefer a $10 bottle of French table wine to a $100 California vintage. Of course, if I'm drinking it at a French table, all the better. :D
 
Yeah, I may splurge occasionally on a bottle at a nice restaurant (curse restaurant price up charges! :mad:), but usually buy something less than $20.
 
I may be able to empty a bottle at one time without any real side effects, and get topsy turvy from one single glass the next day :D No matter what price.
Drinking South African, Chilian, Italian or French most of the time. Red.
 
Kaat72 said:
I may be able to empty a bottle at one time without any real side effects, and get topsy turvy from one single glass the next day :D No matter what price.
Drinking South African, Chilian, Italian or French most of the time. Red.
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Not crazy about the South African or the Australian wines that I can get here, but i am a big fan of the Chilean and Spanish offerings recently (although I think the Spanish varietals are headed in the wrong direction.)

Mike, I've never had any Chinese wines. How do they compare to western varieties?
 
G'night folks.
I hope your luggage is delivered back where it belongs tomorrow K'lin.
 
lunatic59 said:
Not crazy about the South African or the Australian wines that I can get here, but i am a big fan of the Chilean and Spanish offerings recently (although I think the Spanish varietals are headed in the wrong direction.)

Mike, I've never had any Chinese wines. How do they compare to western varieties?
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Although I'm no wine expert, but I know what I like. I think it's very good, certainly an OK wine, as good as any French wines I've tasted. :D I don't think China exports much wine, most is consumed domestically AFAIK. It's mainly clarets as well, usually French varieties. Perhaps the very idea of Made in China :rolleyes: wine is not too appealing for the international market? I mean Great Wall Cabernet Sauvignon might be a hard sell in Bordeaux, no matter how good it is.

BTW we make "Scottish" whisky and "Kentucky" bourbon in China as well, although I've never tasted any so can't comment about what it might be like. A friend once had some cheapo supermarket "Kentucky" bourbon that came from Latvia, which was horrible.
 
This one's on me...enjoy. :thumbup:

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mikedt said:
Although I'm no wine expert, but I know what I like. I think it's very good, certainly an OK wine, as good as any French wines I've tasted. :D I don't think China exports much wine, most is consumed domestically AFAIK. It's mainly clarets as well, usually French varieties. Perhaps the very idea of Made in China :rolleyes: wine is not too appealing for the international market? I mean Great Wall Cabernet Sauvignon might be a hard sell in Bordeaux, no matter how good it is.
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If my memory of agricultural history serves, at the beginning of the last century there was a blight that devastated much of the French vineyards. They were eventually revitalized with Italian cuttings so much of the current French wines have much in common with Italian vintages. It is a bit of irony that the French are very protective about their vines, especially when interest is shown by the California wineries, but Italy takes the "sure, why not?" attitude.

I keep an open palate where wine is concerned (cigars, too). I have been pleasantly surprised by wines from Chile, Argentina, New Zealand and South Africa (although those can be a bit too sweet for me.)

BTW we make "Scottish" whisky and "Kentucky" bourbon in China as well, although I've never tasted any so can't comment about what it might be like. A friend once had some cheapo supermarket "Kentucky" bourbon that came from Latvia, which was horrible.
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I've had cheap bourbon made in Kentucky that is better suited for cleaning the rust off of battleships. Right now I like Woodford Reserve for a good production bourbon and Blanton's for a hand crafted "boutique" bourbon.
 
Luna, what I believe you're walking about is phylloxera:
Phylloxera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One of the reasons why South American wines can be so spectacular is because they were able to graft pre-blight era vines there. Since Argentina and Chile (among other countries) were free of the disease, they survived and didn't have to rely on post-blight plantings like a lot of the rest of the world.

Woodford is good. Basil Hayden is one of my favorites. Very flavorful and a bit lower in ABV so not much water/ice is needed to really enjoy. :)
 
lunatic59 said:
If my memory of agricultural history serves, at the beginning of the last century there was a blight that devastated much of the French vineyards. They were eventually revitalized with Italian cuttings so much of the current French wines have much in common with Italian vintages. It is a bit of irony that the French are very protective about their vines, especially when interest is shown by the California wineries, but Italy takes the "sure, why not?" attitude.

I keep an open palate where wine is concerned (cigars, too). I have been pleasantly surprised by wines from Chile, Argentina, New Zealand and South Africa (although those can be a bit too sweet for me.)



I've had cheap bourbon made in Kentucky that is better suited for cleaning the rust off of battleships. Right now I like Woodford Reserve for a good production bourbon and Blanton's for a hand crafted "boutique" bourbon.
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I'm sure there's some cheapo Made in Scotland "scotch" that is better suited to engine degreasing than its original purpose.

We've got our fire-water here, baijiu. These stuff comes in an amazing amount of verieties, from ultra cheapo, that comes in large plastic bottles that smells just like diesel fuel and tastes like it as well, to carefully distilled and aged premium ones. Some of which can be very expensive.
 
dreadnatty08 said:
Luna, what I believe you're walking about is phylloxera:
Phylloxera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One of the reasons why South American wines can be so spectacular is because they were able to graft pre-blight era vines there. Since Argentina and Chile (among other countries) were free of the disease, they survived and didn't have to rely on post-blight plantings like a lot of the rest of the world.

Woodford is good. Basil Hayden is one of my favorites. Very flavorful and a bit lower in ABV so not much water/ice is needed to really enjoy. :)
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Yup. That was it.

Never been much of a fan of the Beam's. Never tried Basil Hayden, but their Knob Creek bourbon is just not my cup of tea. The Knob Creek Rye on the other hand is quite tasty. Go figure. :dontknow:
 
I think I've had em all. Baker's is a tough one to get down being barrel strength.
If you can find it, Old Potrero from Anchor Brewing Company is fantastic for a rye. Their Junipero gin is good but nothing spectacular.
 
dreadnatty08 said:
I've never had it, but I believe the Japanese whiskey from Yamazaki is supposed to be great:
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Years ago, "60 Minutes" went to Scotland and did a taste test. The winner--as selected by the die hard scotch drinkers--was a nice little scotch made in Japan, by Suntori.

So it might be a good one indeed. Or crap. Twelve years is about right, but the taste will decide.
 
Um ... the short list ...

Things I need to do in a day = 8 hours
Things others want me to do in a day = 6 hours
Thing that I want to do in a day = 3 hours
Things that go wrong and must be addressed in a day = 4 hours
Therapy I need in a day = 2 hours
Minimum sleep required = 5 hours


Now all I need is a 28 hour day. :(
 
lunatic59 said:
Um ... the short list ...

Things I need to do in a day = 5 hours
Things others want me to do in a day = 4 hours
Thing that I want to do in a day = 3 hours
Things that go wrong and must be addressed in a day = 2 hours
Therapy I need in a day = 2 hours
Minimum sleep required = 7 hours
Peace and quiet = 1 hour

Now all I need is a 24 hour day. :(
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Ftfy.
Just say 'no'
 
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