Don't get it twisted, i LOVE my Hero nd wouldn't trade it for an Iphone ANYDAY for a few very simple reasons, overall cost, overall design, overall ease of integration with other technologies, and open source just to name a few. However I do agree that a patent violation is a patent violation BUT where I digress is the way apple is going about this lawsuit. As most have stated, apple is suing HTC for patents on technology that have existed LONG before the Iphone was even a piece of a dream. So if apple is gonna sue HTC they need to sue Palm, Blackberry, and a host of other electronic manufacturers for "infringing" on their patents as well. I have to also express my disappointment with the patent office for allowing apple to patent a simple left to right thumb gesture. Thats just bologna!!! It's pretty obvious that apple is singling out HTC because they just so happen to be the primary source for the slew of android phones that have hit the market in the past several years. The Droid has all the patent infringing technology that the Hero does so way isn't apple dragging Moto into this? And as obvious as it is, steve jobbs is quite worried about it because he will not stop until every mother, teenager, and 5 yr old own and or know how to operate and iphone! The iphone is like the michael jackson of phones. It has created a legacy that no one has yet to or will prolly every in reality surpass so what's he really worried about. 40 million phones and counting and he's crying about a handful of patent violations that i GUARANTEE the average iphone user doesn't know jack about. They just want their toys.