Szadzik
Extreme Android User
Because it has not UMS, but widely used MTP/PTP and that is not recognized y Macs mostly. Another unacceptable thing. Even my Note 10.1 can use PTP.
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Because it has not UMS, but widely used MTP/PTP and that is not recognized y Macs mostly. Another unacceptable thing. Even my Note 10.1 can use PTP.
UserName872
Android Enthusiast
+1 for this. Why are you syncing any contact data via USB still? Add your gmail account to your iphone, sync the contacts that way, then it will display on your S3.
Doubletwist works almost exactly like iTunes so it should be a familiar interface. The other option would be to use Google Music Manager on your Mac which will automatically upload changes in your iTunes library including playlists to your google music account. You can then use the google music app on your S3 anywhere and either stream from your own cloud of music or tell it to download the playlists/albums on wi-fi locally to the device. It may seem very complicated or frustrating at first but that's to be expected after using the iOS ecosystem for so long. With a little research and reading you can be fully operational and better off than you may feel at the moment.
I don't care why it doesn't work - the fact that it doesn't is a problem. Again, in over 7 years the S3 is the only device I've come across that doesn't work out of the box.
As far as I'm concerned, OS X came before the S3, so the S3 doesn't work with OS X, not the other way round.
Roll-Tide
Android Enthusiast
The s3 is no different than any other Android phone so there shouldn't be any more of a problem than any other phone.
Google Music and Google Picasa. Done. Android doesn't need a computer to sync anything up. Contact export out to Gmail and it will just sync. Use dropbox to automatically upload pictures or use drop sync like I do to manage the files on both the internal memory and external memory.
It is different than apple yes, no software is required on the computer, I have yet to use Kies or anything else they just goof things up, including itunes.
It is almost 2013 needing to plug your phone in for anything other than maybe flashing is old fashioned.
Enjoy the sg3 and give Google Music and Picasa a shot.
Here is what I use to manage my Web albums.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imprologic.micasa
None of this stuff needs to be stored on the device, I think that is where your frustration is coming from. Kies is not a good piece of software but it is not needed either. The power comes with Google, and also with double twist if you are insistent on syncing locally, even thought android is really made for online from anywhere, it has space for it but should be used for apps and locally cached stuff not the 5000 songs you want, stream it
Great reply. I think I'm starting to get it (by 'it' I'm mean Android). I'm trying to do something I don't really need to do.
Well the fact that Android, the actual OS, is incompatible with a growing desktop OS is even more unforgivable than a single handset - no?!
I returned the S3 and got a Motorola RAZR Maxx. Plugged it into the USB port on my Mac just to see what would happen and it mounted as a drive (2 actually, one for internal storage and one for the SD card) immediately no workarounds, issues, or added software needed. That's what I expected the S3 to do.
PS - It's kinda cool being in the 'no questions asked' return window at Best Buy. I can basically swap out phones and play with them. I might end up going back to the S3 as I like it's UI, the physical Home key, and the dock port on the bottom better.
PPS - They were both running ICS (the RAZR updated to it after activation) yet the UI's look and work differently. Why is that? I actually like the S3's version better.
Szadzik
Extreme Android User
S3 and all devices using MTP do not work. Meaning Mac OS X is the problem.
Just check Sony Walkmans, MP3 players, etc., etc. They all use MTP.
Lato9905
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Roll-Tide
Android Enthusiast
Man I'm sure glad I've got that pos hp computer and not a mac then... Lol
I've been using W7 at work now and actually <gasp> like it. I got into Apple a few years ago thanks to Vista but now that it's dead and buried and W7 seems to be functioning nicely I may now go back to Windows. It was getting time to upgrade my Mac Mini...
i think that's the best part of android is that you don't need any bloatware on your computer like itunes to sync. everything is automatically synced to the cloud android has always sync this way. and the iphone is just now doing the cloud thing. i know it hard for you old iphone folks to get how this whole cloud syncing works cause you guys seem to always be behind the curve. but once you lern how to cloud sync you will never want to go back to the old bloatware/itunes thing again.
Roll-Tide
Android Enthusiast
I will say that apple's cloud syncing is above and beyond Google's.... I could buy an iphone today and restore a backup, and it would literally be like I never left... All my apps, settings, photos, everything in its place like i had it. I don't know of such an easy way to do that on Android.
humm that's funny when i went from my old 3g iphone to my htc evo, none of my contacts or apps were sync. but when i went from evo to gs2 and from gs2 to gs3 all my contacts were there. with android i don't have too worry about which phone will be next phone as long as it's an android phone it should sync just fine. not so with iphone. with iphone you can only sync with iphone. i hate to be held down with limits.
Roll-Tide
Android Enthusiast
humm that's funny when i went from my old 3g iphone to my htc evo, none of my contacts or apps were sync. but when i went from evo to gs2 and from gs2 to gs3 all my contacts were there. with android i don't have too worry about which phone will be next phone as long as it's an android phone it should sync just fine. not so with iphone. with iphone you can only sync with iphone. i hate to be held down with limits.
So you're comparing being able to sync your Google contacts (which I've done for years from blackberry to android to iphone and back to android) to restoring all of your apps, settings, placement of icons, settings for the apps themselves, etc? Sure that's iphone to iphone.. It would be impossible for it to sync across platforms. I only wish I knew of a way to do that on Android so that if I have to replace my phone for some reason I don't have to go through the process of re downloading and setting everything up again.
humm that's funny when i went from my old 3g iphone to my htc evo, none of my contacts or apps were sync. but when i went from evo to gs2 and from gs2 to gs3 all my contacts were there. with android i don't have too worry about which phone will be next phone as long as it's an android phone it should sync just fine. not so with iphone. with iphone you can only sync with iphone. i hate to be held down with limits.
I honestly just facepalmed. Going by your "logic" I should be able to restore a Windows backup onto OS X.
You see any problems which might arise from that?
Heisenberg123
Android Enthusiast
Kies will backup all your Settings and Preferences
and get app bakup and restore from the play store to backup and restore all your apps
Roll-Tide
Android Enthusiast
Awesome, not as worried about the settings but I downloaded the app backup and restore so that I won't have to try and remember what apps I had.... Should my phone get destroyed or something. Thanks
Easilyamused
Android Enthusiast
What's funny about all these incompatibilities is that Mac's OS is unix based lol. Apple gave up trying to write their own OS after the horror that was 9x, yet even tho OS 10x is derived from Unix, in trying to limit everyone to their garden , they fux it up so much as to make it incompatible with other Unix based OSs.
Easilyamused
Android Enthusiast
Yup. That was my point
They are both far removed from the original Unix, but still.... They do share a common heritage.
hbryder
Android Enthusiast
Totally agree!
iTunes....the very reason i never once considered the iphone or a mac. I remembered the problems I had trying transfer files for my kids when they got one for christmas way back when the iPod came out. It seemed odd to me that a company would go out of it's way make sure you had to buy from them if you wanted to play it on the iPod..not to mention forget trying to play an iTunes file on anything else. Android just plays well others...cant play a windows file on your stock player download a player that will...with apple you have to be part of their circle. That's what makes it so hard to leave..pretty sure they thought that one through
Mac's are not compatible with NTFS drives either, does that mean that NTFS is at fault? Or mac?
OSX does not support MTP out of the box.
Connecting to a Macintosh computer via USB - Android OS Help
And here's why they did it.
Ice Cream Sandwich explained: MTP - what is it, why use it, and how to set it up | Android Central
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We didn't do this because we wanted to use ext3 (although that is a side benefit.) We did it because we wanted to be able to merge the "public shared storage" (i.e. for music and photos) with the internal private app storage.
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
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Lets go ahead and take this one level deeper, since you argue that the mac came out before the sg3, so it should be compatible, mtp came out before the current version of osx, why isn't it compatible, it is a standard afterall.
So we should stay technically behind because apple refuses to let their computers connect to digital cameras, mp3 players other than their own brand.
Yes the razr supports it, but then the file system is exfat, and I've had both the sg3 and razr, and the sg3 runs circles performance wise to the razr, and I'd rather run with ext3 vs exfat in my phone.