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What's the point of widgets?

DrEx gave me a really nice breakdown regarding the use of widgets. I had never seen the point to them when the app itself is just a click away. So I decided to brave the unknown and try them out. The newness has me feeling like a widget junkie. :D

On the Note 2 I think you can go plum crazy with them and (not professionally speaking) I think it would take a lottttttttttttt before even putting a dent in speed. Right now I have 8 screens and widgets on all of them.

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Oh...that's the other one! I use Beautiful Widgets and have a Beautiful Widgets Weather widget on my Widgetlocker lockscreen. I check the weather every morning before work and this works beautifully because all I have to do is take the phone off standby, and look at the widget (click if I want to see more detail), and then put it back on standby. This is all interacting through the Widgetlocker, which allows you to interact with widgets on the lockscreen.


And I forgot to mention another one of my favorite apps, GTasks! It allows you to link your Google Tasks and the widgets are semi transparent! I use the scrollable version for my purposes, but there are other options as well. Very easy way for quick look/quick access without ever having to open the app.
 
There have been many GREAT replies so far.....
But, to me Widgets are FUN.......
Poor Apple people, they do not know what they are missing.

Lateck,
 
Oh...that's the other one! I use Beautiful Widgets and have a Beautiful Widgets Weather widget on my Widgetlocker lockscreen. I check the weather every morning before work and this works beautifully because all I have to do is take the phone off standby, and look at the widget (click if I want to see more detail), and then put it back on standby. This is all interacting through the Widgetlocker, which allows you to interact with widgets on the lockscreen.


And I forgot to mention another one of my favorite apps, GTasks! It allows you to link your Google Tasks and the widgets are semi transparent! I use the scrollable version for my purposes, but there are other options as well. Very easy way for quick look/quick access without ever having to open the app.

You wouldn't believe how long I've had BW, HD, Fancy, and Colorize Widgets. Having never used any I was surprised just how many weather widgets there are--overkill. I like colorize the most since it's the only one so far that I can make the widgets completely transparent.
 
You wouldn't believe how long I've had BW, HD, Fancy, and Colorize Widgets. Having never used any I was surprised just how many weather widgets there are--overkill. I like colorize the most since it's the only one so far that I can make the widgets completely transparent.

I was using Colorize Widgets for a while, but ended up buying Android Pro Widgets instead. Just liked the overall setup better than Colorize.
 
How do widgets affect the battery?

JM

Short story: They do. Depends on how many and how often they're set to sync. You're better off setting them to mostly sync once a day or at the maximum time period. Even better a manual refresh...otherwise it wakes your phone and polls for data.
 
Short story: They do. Depends on how many and how often they're set to sync. You're better off setting them to mostly sync once a day or at the maximum time period. Even better a manual refresh...otherwise it wakes your phone and polls for data.

Ditto on this. Really just depends on how often they are set to sync (if they provide a Sync option). That said, I use widgets that also sync pretty consistently and my battery life has still been amazing. 16 hours consistently w/ constant email push from 5am-10pm and normal/heavy use (compared to old standards).
 
I really couldn't stand having something like that with everything all over the place. I like android and the ui so I just have nova launcher prime.

All my widgets are pretty much a couple of news ones and an email one, and a hd widget clock with weather.

I have my most used apps on the first page and then a few shortcuts on the second. It works well for me and I've tried it pretty much every live wallpaper and nexus pro is my favourite.

I'll share my screens below
 
Screenshots are below-both landscape and portrait. Nova Launcher prime to achieve landscape mode or use rotation locker - which also makes landscape lock screen work too
 

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Windows dismissed the desktop Gadgets (same thing as widgets, really) with extreme prejudice a while ago because of the myriad of security holes they may provide for potential malware and hackers.

So then, how does an Android widget, which is really an app which runs continuously on your desktop, protect the user from having their security compromised? When you say "yes" to all the permissions, just to get the app or widget installed, do you really consider all the possible ways your information may be transmitted, to whom, and for what purpose?

Apple may have a not half-bad idea by not using widgets.
 
Windows dismissed the desktop Gadgets (same thing as widgets, really) with extreme prejudice a while ago because of the myriad of security holes they may provide for potential malware and hackers.

So then, how does an Android widget, which is really an app which runs continuously on your desktop, protect the user from having their security compromised? When you say "yes" to all the permissions, just to get the app or widget installed, do you really consider all the possible ways your information may be transmitted, to whom, and for what purpose?

Apple may have a not half-bad idea by not using widgets.
No, I don't see any way having a widget presents a security hole any more than any other app whether it had a widget interface or not.

Am I missing something?

BTW, I believe the reason apple has no widgets is because ios can not multitask.
 
Windows dismissed the desktop Gadgets (same thing as widgets, really) with extreme prejudice a while ago because of the myriad of security holes they may provide for potential malware and hackers.

So then, how does an Android widget, which is really an app which runs continuously on your desktop, protect the user from having their security compromised? When you say "yes" to all the permissions, just to get the app or widget installed, do you really consider all the possible ways your information may be transmitted, to whom, and for what purpose?

Apple may have a not half-bad idea by not using widgets.

enter pdroid, thought of, worked on, solved.

and your comparing the android os which is a rockin os to winblows and crapple? ive been running widgets on a rooted device for two plus years. no issus. ofcorse, i use my brain, not only when deciding what to install, but what network traffic i allow, and what data i allow other apps to read.

want idiot proof, go iphone
if you dont need idiot proof, go android.
totaly your call
 
I know two people who went from the iPhone to the Note 2 for a simple reason. The iPhone 5 was a poor value for the money. The Note's large screen was very appealing and the 5 was still too small for the upgrade cost not to mention the paltry enhancements. They don't use widgets, launchers, or care about customization. If Apple had offered a big screen phone they would still be iPhone customers.
 
I know two people who went from the iPhone to the Note 2 for a simple reason. The iPhone 5 was a poor value for the money. The Note's large screen was very appealing and the 5 was still too small for the upgrade cost not to mention the paltry enhancements. They don't use widgets, launchers, or care about customization. If Apple had offered a big screen phone they would still be iPhone customers.

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I'm glad I found this topic and it still has some kind of recent activity.
I searched the web for it and I really can't see the point of widgets either.

I own a HTC EVO 3D. The widgets HTC includes in it are beautiful, but don't get me wrong, 99% serve no utility, and the ones from apps from the market aren't any better (the great majority of apps doesn't even offer widget options). And believe me I would never touch a iOS device over an Android.

To start, this video only shows me a lot of swipes required to do things and half-baked versions of apps. In the video you can see also that you can have text instead of an icon to launch your apps, that's it, and this isn't useful at all. I don't even know if it's part of a widget or a launcher.
In this topic there are also photos of a cube-like home screen, what does it have to do with widgets? It's accomplished with a launcher, there's no need for widget.

Why should I use a widget instead of opening the app? Are 1, 2 or maybe even 3 or more swipes better than a single tap in the app shortcut?

- I mean, there's a 4x4 Messages widget: I can put in one of the home screens. But why!? If I receive a new message I'll go to it via the notification and reply, if I want to write a new message I just open the app from the dock which will include the full list of conversations and the + button!
- Music controls: the controls on the lock screen are much better. Some vendors put these controls in the notification area, again it's better because you can get to them from any screen, you don't need to leave the app you're on to skip a track or stop the music.
- Toggles: why should I put one in a home screen if I can have all of them with toggles in the notification area? Some people don't even put them in the main home screen, what's the point? You have to dig swiping even more. Again another example of how widgets force you to leave the app you're on while notification toggles will let you do all of this without even leaving the app you're on.
- Social networks streams: so you see a good post and want to comment, you tap and you're throwed to a limited custom built UI - or - you're throwed to the official app. You want to talk to somebody in Facebook chat, then you'll need to open the Facebook app. You want to visit somebody's profile? Again you'll need to enter an app screen. Not even the fact you can have Facebook+Twitter streams together in one stream is worth it, the kind of content posted in these networks are so different anyway... Also any kind of notification like a reply you receive will get to the notification area where you tap and go to the app.
Somebody mentioned if you open the Facebook app you need to wait until it loads new stories before being able to post something, this isn't true. If you post a lot of things a shortcut to the "new post intent" can be created in the home screen, no widget is needed to accomplish this. If you post pics the best thing to do is to open the media gallery app, select the photo and share it to Facebook, not a widget that in the end would require you to follow exactly the same path.
- Want e-mail? 1 tap to get to the app / new e-mail notifications.
- Want to call somebody or even message? If you call this person often it'll be at the top of the dialer or just one more 2 easy taps and you'll get to the group you have sorted this person, no need for a widget with your favorite contacts displayed in a home screen one or more swipes away. Anyway, all needed in this case is to create a shortcut to each person.
- Bookmarks without the need of opening the browser? I don't use the stock browser so I have no bookmarks there. Also, do you really prefer to swipe to another screen and tap the bookmark instead of having a shortcut to your preferred web browser? I use Opera, I just tap it once and then tap the page I want to go to in my "Speed Dial". (It's awkward: you prefer 1 or more swipe(s) + tap vs. two taps.)


+ I actually use one widget: the one from the notes app. It's like the complete app but the list of notes is presented like a pile of paper. It shows the latest note on-screen and you can swipe, flipping, to revel the "paper" page underneath the current one, there's also a + button to create a new one and also buttons to create notes using a image with the camera, mic for recording a note in audio and one for drawing. It's awesome, better than the actual app's interface and that's why I use it. The way you can see your notes at a glance and get to edit them fast and simple like flipping the paper on your desk and start writing with a pen is totally worth it, would it mimic the actual app UI I'd rather to have a shortcut to it in the main home screen.

+ I have the HTC clock widget in my main home screen because it's very good to see time this big in the morning when you wake up and the weather temperature on it is very handy. But if it wasn't in the main home screen its use would be already compromised compared to a notification that can show a bigger clock and weather from an app like Google Now or some other. (It's tapping home to get out of the app you're on then swiping to the home screen you have the widget vs simply pulling the status bar!)

I can see the tasks app widget is also very feature-rich but it doesn't beat the actual app UI in any way to be worth it.

It seems there are very, VERY FEW cases of good implementation of widgets. The thing is whether it's a nice idea or not, the execution is poor. Widgets equals somewhat good visuals with poor productivity and lack so many features compared to the actual app it isn't worth a swipe over tapping a shortcut to open the damn app. Maybe in a tablet you have more space to have widgets on your main home screen and then the situation of swipe vs. tap gets a little better but they'd still be half-baked versions of their respective apps.

I'd like to also leave a link for this topic which questions the usefulness of home screens as a whole:
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/378916-whats-point-home-screen.html
I very much agree it's a bit pointless and an app launcher you can rearrange and set up folders like iOS's one or one of the likes of Samsung/LG would be already good enough for me, even the Windows Phone approach is more attractive (but I wouldn't use this OS because it lacks other crucial things such as a notifications/status bar). (Again, before you say I want an iPhone when you run out of "arguments" to defend widgets use: I don't want an iOS device. I'm completely against Apple and their practices.)

The fact is with Widgets you're just wasting more RAM because they're being constantly pre-loaded, and forcing yourself to keep going back to the home screen again and again and perform swipes.

PS. BTW, Widgets were removed from Windows in PCs because of security issues specifically in the way they run "on top" of the Windows OS, I mean, problems somewhat in the "framework" developers use (and hackers could use to exploit the security breach). The issue is in the way Windows execute them, not in the "widgets" idea as a whole, which in Android runs basically as a different and more limited UI of an app.
 
Windows dismissed the desktop Gadgets (same thing as widgets, really) with extreme prejudice a while ago because of the myriad of security holes they may provide for potential malware and hackers.

So then, how does an Android widget, which is really an app which runs continuously on your desktop, protect the user from having their security compromised? When you say "yes" to all the permissions, just to get the app or widget installed, do you really consider all the possible ways your information may be transmitted, to whom, and for what purpose?

Apple may have a not half-bad idea by not using widgets.
Same issue you have with any app. So what's the big deal? Check the app permissions and be done with it - the widget is nothing more than a persistent face on the app running behind the scenes.
Me I use BW weather with custom clock, my schedule/calendar, Shazam and Google. With the toggles located in the notification pull down I see no point in having an onscreen toggle widget. The Note has those awesome buddy screens that pop up in response to actions like plugging in the headphones - sort of like a dynamic widget.
Widgets are good stuff used judiciously - used for everything they become just bigger clutter than the app icons.
 
I agree with much of what you said, but would like to make a point or two. You admit you use a couple widgets. So the widgets you find useful might not be the one others find useful. Perhaps o others use the widgets you dislike in ways that make sense for them, even if they are wasted on you. So should the widgets on offer be limited? If so which should be offered? If not then what is your argument?

I only find three widgets useful. Zooper, Google now, and simple cal. Zooper allies me to make my home screen look exactly how I want. The other two provide info without needing to open an app. Using these three, I actually have only two icons on any of my three home screens.

Anyway, just my two cents.
 
Having current weather and news updated on one screen of my phone is handy as can be. It's right there and nothing to click except to go deeper into the widget for more displayed info.

I'd been waiting for a phone to come along with the resources to handle frequent auto updating of those two items instead of having to click an app icon and updating/syncing weather on demand. Now they're here. :)

Other users may feel the same about their social networking widgets; on screen data without touching it, unless you want to get into it further or post/tweet/facebook etc.
 
I agree with much of what you said, but would like to make a point or two. You admit you use a couple widgets. So the widgets you find useful might not be the one others find useful. Perhaps o others use the widgets you dislike in ways that make sense for them, even if they are wasted on you. So should the widgets on offer be limited? If so which should be offered? If not then what is your argument?

I only find three widgets useful. Zooper, Google now, and simple cal. Zooper allies me to make my home screen look exactly how I want. The other two provide info without needing to open an app. Using these three, I actually have only two icons on any of my three home screens.

Anyway, just my two cents.
I understand, in the case Zooper widgets make it much easier to make visual customization. When making my point I was all about "productivity" and put aesthetics aside (I believe a launcher would be able to make everything Zooper offers but it'd be less easier).

I said I use clock to big time and weather but in my mind maybe there wasn't a necessity to make widgets feature as it could be displayed by the launcher IDK. Also I use the Notes app widget because it has a better UI than the app as I explained (more after this second quote below...).

Having current weather and news updated on one screen of my phone is handy as can be. It's right there and nothing to click except to go deeper into the widget for more displayed info.

I'd been waiting for a phone to come along with the resources to handle frequent auto updating of those two items instead of having to click an app icon and updating/syncing weather on demand. Now they're here. :)

Other users may feel the same about their social networking widgets; on screen data without touching it, unless you want to get into it further or post/tweet/facebook etc.
They usually don't fit in your main home screen (unless it's a tablet) making it a swipe away instead of a tap away. I find tapping easier than swiping so widgets "lose" to apps.

I was thinking about this topic earlier and I see a point I missed. Widgets can be useful if they display information that would be in a deeper level of an app (2 taps or more), in that case widgets would "win" the practical use of apps the problem is we just don't have many examples of such useful widgets and that's what caused us to come here and wonder their usefulness (but I can see it now). :)
 
I have 13 widgets on my 6 screens. I see them as frequently used apps which I never have to hunt for to launch when I need them. As I know so well owning an iPad which consists of a sea of icons that often defy classification into easily discrete folders. I spend way too much time finding what I need. Widgets also look cool and break the monotony of the iOS world. Pointless to argue against them as it is to argue Mercedes vs. Bimmer. I certainly can't be convinced otherwise.
 
I understand, in the case Zooper widgets make it much easier to make visual customization. When making my point I was all about "productivity" and put aesthetics aside (I believe a launcher would be able to make everything Zooper offers but it'd be less easier).

I said I use clock to big time and weather but in my mind maybe there wasn't a necessity to make widgets feature as it could be displayed by the launcher IDK. Also I use the Notes app widget because it has a better UI than the app as I explained (more after this second quote below...).

They usually don't fit in your main home screen (unless it's a tablet) making it a swipe away instead of a tap away. I find tapping easier than swiping so widgets "lose" to apps.

I was thinking about this topic earlier and I see a point I missed. Widgets can be useful if they display information that would be in a deeper level of an app (2 taps or more), in that case widgets would "win" the practical use of apps the problem is we just don't have many examples of such useful widgets and that's what caused us to come here and wonder their usefulness (but I can see it now). :)

Here ya go. These are my favorite widgets that are extremely useful, make my life more productive without wasting extra time. And a big reason why I love widgets, if they serve a proper purpose.

Android pro widgets. Scrollable widget and multiple interactive click throughs for all my organized folders of bookmarks in chrome. Can go directly to a website without needing to open browser first.
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Android pro widgets. Scrollable widget and multiple interactive click throughs for all my calendar events and switchable to full month and agenda view.
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Android pro widgets. Scrollable widget and interactive click throughs (twitter and Facebook) for all my social media feeds, sync'd with app.
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GTasks for sync with gmail tasks and updatable.
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Widgetsoid on top with soundhound and shazaam. These are mainly for work purposes. The shazaam and soundhound widgets work without having to enter the app. Saves time, not needing to click into app
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Widgetsoid also offers great notification panel widgets. Most of the widgets I enjoy using the most are the ones that are also customizable.
 
You just showed examples of widgets that only mimic apps' UI.
I mean, you can get to the actual apps with 1 tap and have all that functionality but you decided to switch to a situation where you'll need 1 or more swipe(s) to get there (vs. 1 tap if those apps were in your home screen) and more RAM is used for the widgets.

What's the advantage of having your bookmarks displayed one or more swipes away for example when Chrome is 1 tap away in your home screen or in task-switcher anyway? I know it might require more taps to get to the bookmarks list but this is just one of the reasons why I use the Opera browser.

Since my last post I noticed right now that you actually can create shortcuts to a specific part of the app (it is just not implemented by the stock launchers) but it could become a mainstream feature that could make widgets be even less used if supported well by app developers (according to my thought about widgets being useful when you want to access something deeper in an app).

In my usage I ended up getting rid of all the widgets that came by default in the home screens of my Android smartphone (per my first post in this topic) and that's the reason why I searched for a topic like that. For example I'd be very satisfied already with the clock from the lock screen -> Blinkfeed / app drawer from the new HTC One, and that would leave my widget usage to solely the handy (but not mandatory for a fair experience) Notes app's one.

PS. Yes I can see the cool, easy to customize and aesthetic factor, but not exactly productivity (faster use of software) that's why I dropped my comments here. (Don't take them so seriously, I'm not trying to extinguish widgets or something.) ;)
I guess everyone have their own needs and wants.

Note: I see a lot of Android fans bashing iOS/WP a lot because they lack widgets yet I'd safely assure these users they aren't missing anything that significant in this regard.
 
If you don't like widgets, you're free to not use them. But I have many apps on my device, so I have to swipe any way to get to them, then click to open them. A widget just requires a swipe.

Ps, the lack of widgets is ios' s least problem.
 
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