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Are people that oblivious?

omg! hahahaha!!!!

and yes...yes they are..In an Astronomy class I took in College, there were multiple people in the class who didn't know that the sun was a star!! I kid you not..:rolleyes:.
 
Self centered, no curiosity, or just don't care?

I can see this of some older folks, but younger ones should have SOME idea.

Watch is sonny... some of us old farts know what HTML is, how to code it, can still read and write assembler, maybe even some PL/s even... ;) (just funnin' ya)
 
freshman in college.. my first history class...
over 100 students in class...
first day... pop quiz...

I heard student asking... where was Washington DC..
some were sayin it was in Washington state.
some think Washington State must be up in Northeast area with the original 13 colonies

they also had no idea where the Mississippi river was.. or Great Lakes.. or Texas was.

American college students!!! it was so sad.. I had to laugh
 
freshman in college.. my first history class...
over 100 students in class...
first day... pop quiz...

I heard student asking... where was Washington DC..
some were sayin it was in Washington state.
some think Washington State must be up in Northeast area with the original 13 colonies

they also had no idea where the Mississippi river was.. or Great Lakes.. or Texas was.

American college students!!! it was so sad.. I had to laugh

Were they using Apple maps?
 
Last year in college... School organized the yearly trip abroad. I went to Rome, to see the Colosseum, musea, churches, the Vatican, to turn 18 there and so much more beauty. I was surrounded by 17-18 year olds, who were educated in Greek and Roman languages in a catholic school.
We were visiting a children's church. An adorable small church with beautiful statues and filled with letters and drawings from children from all over the world, requesting God's help or thanking him.
One of my class mates seriously asked: 'Is this where they buried the baby Jesus Christ?'
 
Self centered, no curiosity, or just don't care?

I can see this of some older folks, but younger ones should have SOME idea.
1 in 10 in a survey think HTML is an STD - latimes.com

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9HJeR-F9NIeczNDb2hVb2p6UTQ/edit?pli=1

You use the tech, don't you suppose something has to make it work?

Please explain how color television works.

If that's too hard, please explain why interlaced framing was introduced and used in the overwhelming majority of all TV you've ever seen. That's pretty fundamental to all TV.

And if that's too hard, please explain why anyone who isn't a web programmer needs to care about HTML.

I'd also like to know the properly sized surcingle to use on a 30 hand horse.
 
I was just going to say the same thing, sort of. I watch TV and use my Roku but that doesn't mean I know how that dang thing works or the technical terms associated with it. Hell, I'm still not clear on exactly how a radio works.
I drive my car but don't know all the parts or how the engine really works. If I took a survey about that I'd come up with some whacked answers for sure.
Some of the terms in the linked survey seem obvious but there is no reason anyone (save a programmer/coder etc.) should really know what they are.
 
Please explain how color television works.

If that's too hard, please explain why interlaced framing was introduced and used in the overwhelming majority of all TV you've ever seen. That's pretty fundamental to all TV.

You sure? I could do that but I'd have to charge you give the amount of time it'd take. Let me know and we can work out a payment schedule.

And if that's too hard, please explain why anyone who isn't a web programmer needs to care about HTML.

You've got me there

I'd also like to know the properly sized surcingle to use on a 30 hand horse.

Training, vaulting or... ? ;)
 
Color TV uses RGB. All colors together are white - no added color is black. Analog TV had 3 guns? to combine colors received.

Printers use CMYK. You have to calibrate both screen and printer to get what you see. CMYK also uses very fine dots to combine the inks and fool the eye. All colors together make a muddy brown, so black is added.

Understanding Color

Years ago on dialup, the graphic would come in line by line. Deinterlacing smooths the whole thing out, and reduces size. Transparent animated GIFs were great. You also had to reduce the size of the graphic. 640X480@72DPI was common. Old monitors had 72DPI resolution (Apple) and 96DPI (Windows).

I know how to lay out screens for the old 4 color printing method.

I'm also pretty sure you would recognize HTML as something to do with the internet NOT an STD.
 
If you drive a car, aren't you supposed to know how a four stroke engine works?

If you use a washing machine, aren't you supposed to know how an electric motor works?

car.. I do expect them to know it runs on gas... it has a motor.. not magic.

washing machine .. needs water.. soap... motor.. cant run without electricity.

there is some level of basic understanding that is expected.

knowing the term "HTML" .. is not equal to .. knowing how a 4strock motor works.
I can know that my TV is LCD vs LED.. but I don't have to know how that works or what it takes to make one.
 
I used to complain when my dad had me helping to fix things because he made enough to pay someone to do it but there is that satisfaction of doing things yourself.

Last night the dishwasher broke (no I didn't throw my girlfriend down the stairs). I pulled it apart saw the problem, corrected it, put it back together in ten minutes.
 
Color TV uses RGB. All colors together are white - no added color is black. Analog TV had 3 guns? to combine colors received.

Printers use CMYK. You have to calibrate both screen and printer to get what you see. CMYK also uses very fine dots to combine the inks and fool the eye. All colors together make a muddy brown, so black is added.

Understanding Color

Years ago on dialup, the graphic would come in line by line. Deinterlacing smooths the whole thing out, and reduces size. Transparent animated GIFs were great. You also had to reduce the size of the graphic. 640X480@72DPI was common. Old monitors had 72DPI resolution (Apple) and 96DPI (Windows).

I know how to lay out screens for the old 4 color printing method.

I'm also pretty sure you would recognize HTML as something to do with the internet NOT an STD.

Seeing as how I built one of the first web servers for the Department of Energy, if not the first, from European sources that I modified for my platform and then launched the first page serving research test data on it, just like CERN shortly after they unveiled, yes, I recognize what HTML is and I have an excuse for having the affliction.

Your description of deinterlacing is completely incorrect.

Interlaced television frames means that for each update, half of the scan lines on the TV are produced - the odd, then even, then odd, and repeating.

Until the advent of progressive displays in the HDTV era and the transcoding from DVDs to computers, there was no such thing as deinterlacing in consumer products.

Your application of the term to early web picture rendering is not correct. Some web rendering was done in iteration, similar to interlacing, because of how jpeg data are stored and the display algorithms at the time. That's not deinterlacing.

Interlacing began for mechanical reasons and was maintained for legacy reasons.

We never discussed frames per second before progressive displays because it took two field updates to create an equivalent frame - theoretically, a 60 Hz NTSC TV (read: USA) created 30 fps, but only because of your brain reconstructing the information into perceived smooth motion pictures.

Each 60th of a second, only half of the screen was being painted.

The bare minimum for surpassing the human flicker fusion threshold is 48 images per second. Movie theaters show 24 fps films passed through a 48 Hz shutter - and even that seems jerky to some.

Interlacing allowed TV to surpass the flicker fusion threshold for most people while still making transmission possible with available bandwidth and broadcasting technologies. (And many people need a higher rate for their flicker fusion threshold to be satisfied.)

Interlacing is the act of transmitting and processing one-half of a full screen subframe at every electrical power cycle.

I asked how color TV worked, you narrowed that to how color is produced.

Ok, looking at that, the RGB model was experimented with in 1929 for TV and is how modern color monitors work (not the original ones).

So, different question, how do you get color on a color TV?

Color television however was based on the luminance model, not RGB. There you have a total luminance, and then the value of luminance off of yellow for blue and again for red. You may recall having component connections on your entertainment equipment labeled YPbPr prior to the advent of digital DVI or HDMI connections, or YCbCr where P or C means percentage or chroma.

Today we have the ATSC digital standard that's replaced the NTSC analog one. The reference RGB map is still sent but MPEG-2 broadcast or transmission, that's still cast against the stream values for YCbCr.

In analog TV, there was no final color decoding electronically. The electron guns simply excited red, green and blue phosphorus paints on the back of the TV glass to various luminance levels. Plasma TV still uses the phosphor paints on the back of the glass to achieve color.

With LCDs, the screen doesn't produce light, like phosphor paints do. Each subpixel is a shutter, aperture if you will, that opens or closes to allow the white backlight to pass. In front of that are color filters and polarizers to define each subpixel as red, green or blue.

On a DLP - digital light processor - you have either a program-controlled micromirror matrix reflecting white light through a very high speed spinning color wheel to the projection surface, or three micromirror arrays reflecting through separate color filters. Both are used in many projection TVs.

Yes, at the end, color TVs have always displayed red, green and blue and our perception machines in our skulls create a wider gamut from that.

But I didn't ask how our visual cortexes work - I asked how color television did.

How color television works: it's a YCbCr luminance engine.

Knowing that red, green and blue comes out without knowing that YCbCr went in is at the same level as knowing that a URL goes in to a web browser without knowing that HTML comes out of the web server.

You can watch color TV without knowing it's a YCbCr luminance engine and you can surf the web without knowing that your browser is an HTML engine.

Neither YCbCr nor HTML are basic knowledge metrics, they're both advanced.

Sorry - you didn't get much closer than answering the two TV questions as STDs.


Understanding technology is fun but I don't accept that it's a requirement for being a well-rounded, educated person.

PS - to some people, programming, even simple HTML, is as hard as color TV and knowing what HTML stands for is as arcane as knowing what YCbCr stands for.
 
ok smarty pants...explain what women really want:p
hint* it has nothing to do with penicillin:D
and your welcome:)










hey! it's day lights savings! just noticed that...also there is a squirrel outside my window...I guess he saw his shadow..yeah now it all makes sense:rolleyes:
 
ok smarty pants...explain what women really want:p
hint* it has nothing to do with penicillin:D
and your welcome:)

Women want me, cooking one of the best meals they've ever had.

Even including the women who believe they can outcook me, all women want that at some time.

Those that don't yet, will, just as soon as they've had a sample or heard about it.

hey! it's day lights savings! just noticed that...also there is a squirrel outside my window...I guess he saw his shadow..yeah now it all makes sense:rolleyes:
Daylight savings doesn't begin until 2AM tomorrow morning - about 14 hours from now.

Remember to tip your waiter - me - and you're welcome. :D

Next question. :cool:
 
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