Lollipop 5.0 [Its out! 11/12]

[Rxpert83]

I have a question about OTA updates and root.

I rooted my wife's N5 a while back using towel root (I know, I know I probably shouldn't have done it that way but I wanted an easy way to root without losing her data) for the purposes of using a battery stats app to find out which app was draining her battery.

I left everything stock so I'm curious if when lollipop is pushed out OTA will it go to her phone or will I have to uprade her manually?

The OTA will go to any phone that checks for it.

The issue is whether or not it will install.

With only root and nothing else changed, you should be fine. It will likely unroot her though.

You may want to take this opportunity to unlock her boot loader without losing data with the app bootunlocker for nexus. That way if the OTA fails you can still update her via fastboot without losing data.

 

[xdrc45]

I have a question about OTA updates and root.

I rooted my wife's N5 a while back using towel root (I know, I know I probably shouldn't have done it that way but I wanted an easy way to root without losing her data) for the purposes of using a battery stats app to find out which app was draining her battery.

I left everything stock so I'm curious if when lollipop is pushed out OTA will it go to her phone or will I have to uprade her manually?

As long as there are no modifications, everything is stock and it's only rooted then yes she should receive the OTA update and it will go through just fine but obviously you'll lose root.

 

[kate]

It looks like there is a delay for Nexus devices due to a WiFi bug that was recently fixed:

[Update: Fixed] The Android 5.0 Nexus Rollout Might Be On Hold Because Of A Serious WiFi Battery Drain Bug

 

[GuitarG20]

It looks like there is a delay for Nexus devices due to a WiFi bug that was recently fixed:

[Update: Fixed] The Android 5.0 Nexus Rollout Might Be On Hold Because Of A Serious WiFi Battery Drain Bug

Yeah I talked to a N5 owner whos device was on that version of the preview. He said his phone was wakelocked constantly and he was lucky to get 6 hours on light use. I took a look and his phone was HOT too

 

[MartinS]

I am looking forward to it coming but to be honest now most of the GApps have material design it seems less of an issue for me to get the OS.

 

[ArmageddonX]

I dont post on the forums much anymore because my real life is quite busy nowadays but to be honest I'm very dissatisfied we're looking at other non-Nexus devices getting 5.0 before us. I know it's whiny and somewhat stupid to complain, but it's annoying. That's pretty much all I have to say. I love my Nexus 5 and I dont plan on upgrading anytime soon I am still so happy with the device.

Get your stuff together, Google. You are quickly diminishing the main advantage to having a Nexus device.

 

[Rxpert83]

I dont post on the forums much anymore because my real life is quite busy nowadays but to be honest I'm very dissatisfied we're looking at other non-Nexus devices getting 5.0 before us. I know it's whiny and somewhat stupid to complain, but it's annoying. That's pretty much all I have to say. I love my Nexus 5 and I dont plan on upgrading anytime soon I am still so happy with the device.

Get your stuff together, Google. You are quickly diminishing the main advantage to having a Nexus device.

I don't think you'll be waiting long. Could happen today, could happen later this week. I would be surprised if we have to wait til next week.

And itsnt it a good thing that other manufacturers are getting their butts together? "Fragmentation" is always something people bring up to bash android. Google fixed that by making android version mostly irrelevant, and now with the biggest update androids ever gotten have fixed it by giving manufacturers increased access before release.

As for our nexus 5's getting it, there was a major battery draining bug that was just patched late last week. The other devices getting the update may still have this bug. I'd rather wait a bit longer for better software.

Also keep in mind the moto x 5.0 update is not official, its just a soak test for those who signed up to beta test. The G3 is only being updated in Poland, which is LG's version of a soak test.

 

[dequelo]

5.0 should start rolling out Wednesday. There was a bug draining the battery in the original build, and it is now said to be resolved. You can check the website to find out when the factory image has been released

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

I don't think that other(Samsung, LG, Motorola, Etc) devices will see the update before Nexus devices. That would cause a huge impact on Google's sales of Nexus devices.

Hope this helps!

 

[jj14x]

5.0 should start rolling out Wednesday.

Source?

 

[dequelo]

Nexus 5, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 Android 5.0 Lollipop Update Delayed to November 12, Alternative Download Available - International Business Times

Of course it's not confirmed by Google...

 

[dequelo]

That isn't the only site that says November 12th is the release date. There are many.

 

[chukka63]

keep calm,it's only an update.Let others sort out the bugs/teething problems.It's not like the N5 is falling short of any other device as it is.

 

[Rxpert83]

You always have to be careful with buying into the hype train that any blog is reporting. With that said, the 12th makes sense. The 6 goes on sale that day.

It'll get here when it gets here

 

[dequelo]

I agree Rxpert83!

If it takes Google longer to get the bugs out, so be it. I'd rather have a solid OS, once it's released.

 

[Omar Days]

Really couldn't care less if other phones might get lollipop a few days before us nexus 5 owners because frankly it'll have the manufacturers skin all over it which I hate. It's a bit pedantic getting bothered about this imo.

 

[dequelo]

Won't have to wonder about Samsung rolling out updates anytime soon. Android 6.0 will be available before the Samsung rolls out 5.0.

I guess it takes Samsung that long to decide which apps they want you to have, that cannot be removed from the device.

 

[nx1977]

I don't think you'll be waiting long. Could happen today, could happen later this week. I would be surprised if we have to wait til next week.

And itsnt it a good thing that other manufacturers are getting their butts together? "Fragmentation" is always something people bring up to bash android. Google fixed that by making android version mostly irrelevant, and now with the biggest update androids ever gotten have fixed it by giving manufacturers increased access before release.

As for our nexus 5's getting it, there was a major battery draining bug that was just patched late last week. The other devices getting the update may still have this bug. I'd rather wait a bit longer for better software.

Also keep in mind the moto x 5.0 update is not official, its just a soak test for those who signed up to beta test. The G3 is only being updated in Poland, which is LG's version of a soak test.

Isn't 5 the end of fragmentation?

Didn't Google tell manufacturers that they had to supply vanilla and pump customisation via play or their own servers?

 

[dequelo]

That would be good if we could choose whether or not we wanted touchwiz, but if Google stopped manufacturers from making the OS their own, then I would think Samung, LG, Amazon, etc. they would find another open source OS to be their foundation?

 

[nx1977]

That would be good if we could choose whether or not we wanted touchwiz, but if Google stopped manufacturers from making the OS their own, then I would think Samung, LG, Amazon, etc. they would find another open source OS to be their foundation?

I assume people wouldn't get the choice, but that a clever hack would sort that.

 

[Rxpert83]

Isn't 5 the end of fragmentation?

Didn't Google tell manufacturers that they had to supply vanilla and pump customisation via play or their own servers?

I haven't heard that myself. :dontknow:

I always thought fragmentation was more about android version, and less about the skins. Googles mostly made android version irrelevant by updating things through the play store.

Googles been pushing Samsung to stay closer to stock, but I don't think they've required it. Things have been"leaked" from Samsung and its def still touchwiz. Closer to home, but still there

 

[GuitarG20]

Isn't 5 the end of fragmentation?

Didn't Google tell manufacturers that they had to supply vanilla and pump customisation via play or their own servers?

Nope. Word on the street is google told manufacturers to stop deviating so much, but they are essentially free to do what they want with the software after google gives it them.

Google also said that now carriers have to supply their software through google play instead of baking it into ROMs, allowing it to be removed easier.

 

[Hook]

I'm really surprised that Google hasn't made an ad with the lil Google Guy dancing around to Millie Small's "My Boy Lollipop" (First SKA single to chart in the US circa 1963). She was from Jamaica, but recording in London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYj9J4UH8ck

They could have some fun with this.

Ans now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.

 

[nx1977]

There's plenty of Lollipops in the ad if you look

 

[Biaviian]

Google also said that now carriers have to supply their software through google play instead of baking it into ROMs, allowing it to be removed easier.

Good luck keeping the software from being re-installed the next time you access the play store. I am struggling with that now.

 

[GuitarG20]

Good luck keeping the software from being re-installed the next time you access the play store. I am struggling with that now.

Huh? I'm not sure I understand... if carrier bloatware apps are installed via the play store, it allows users to decide what apps they want and uninstall the rest...?