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Can I install Windows OS instead of Android OS on a mob phone?
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Greum
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I would have said not, but this article seems to suggest you can.
"Windows OS“?
Are you referring to Windows Phone? AFAIK Microsoft discontinued it, and no it can't be installed on an Android device.
On the other hand if you're referring to desktop Windows, then definitely not you need a PC or laptop to run that.
Are you referring to Windows Phone? AFAIK Microsoft discontinued it, and no it can't be installed on an Android device.
On the other hand if you're referring to desktop Windows, then definitely not you need a PC or laptop to run that.
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Has any one ever tried this one???? Does this really work???::
https://www.technologysage.com/2016/09/how-to-install-windows-on-android-phone-or-tablet.html
https://forum.technologysage.com/thread-14.html
https://www.technologysage.com/2016/09/how-to-install-windows-on-android-phone-or-tablet.html
https://forum.technologysage.com/thread-14.html
There are several aspects of that recipe which make me very dubious (also the link to an article on "expanding RAM" on Android rings alarm bells). Though it's possible that it works in a different way from what the text implies (it's very unclear on exactly how it's supposed to work, but for sure it isn't actually "replacing" Android in the phone's system partition).
In principle you could run Windows apps in an emulator (like the WINE project on Linux) or a virtual machine, but that last particularly will be slow.
But Mike's question is important: what do you mean by "Windows"? You talk about "phones with Windows" and link to an article about desktop Windows, which suggests that you don't realise that these are not the same OS (just as iOS and MacOS are both Apple operating systems but not actually the same at all, Windows Phone and Windows are quite different beasts). So which does this thing run on? And if it's desktop Windows, why do you need to run it on a phone (less powerful and more awkward than a computer)?
In principle you could run Windows apps in an emulator (like the WINE project on Linux) or a virtual machine, but that last particularly will be slow.
But Mike's question is important: what do you mean by "Windows"? You talk about "phones with Windows" and link to an article about desktop Windows, which suggests that you don't realise that these are not the same OS (just as iOS and MacOS are both Apple operating systems but not actually the same at all, Windows Phone and Windows are quite different beasts). So which does this thing run on? And if it's desktop Windows, why do you need to run it on a phone (less powerful and more awkward than a computer)?
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I'm extremely doubtful about any sites claiming to run Windows on an Android device. And I don't honestly think it's a great idea.
If I were you, I'd look at Android Cubase alternatives. Some ideas here -
https://alternativeto.net/software/cubase/?platform=android
If I were you, I'd look at Android Cubase alternatives. Some ideas here -
https://alternativeto.net/software/cubase/?platform=android
...on a mob phone means Windows on a mobile telephone. So, not on a desktop.
I know Windows for phone is different from Windows for desktop.But I hope it is similar to be able to run Cubase on phone?
Why I want to run Cubase on a mob phone? Because you can buy phone Android with excellent specification: 6G RAM and Deca Core for about £90. But to buy PC or laptop which would have 6G RAM and Deca Core 64-bit CPU clocked at 2.3GHz.........for such pc or laptop I would have to pay for the same specification over £1,000 or probaly over £1500?
Mobile telephones are cheaper than pc or laptop with the same specification!
So, if I connect the mobile telephone with a large screen and add a keyboard, I have a "desktop" for about £200 instead of £1,500.
Yes, I do agree. But the problem is, I did not find any alternative which would be on the high level of Cubase. I found only the low level for a fun. But nothing for the professional music production like Cubase is.
No, not at all. You need a Windows Phone version of an app to run on Windows Phone, it can't run desktop Windows apps. The similarities basically come down to them both being called "Windows", but beyond that they are completely different things.
Except it's not the same specification: my quad-core laptop has far more computing power than my octa-core phone, because the architectures of the chips are completely different. Fewer but more powerful cores running at the same or even lower clock speed can do a lot more computation per second. Of course the laptop processor also uses a lot more power than the phone's processor! But honestly, if the phone processors were comparable to the laptop processors do you really think the laptop manufacturers would use more expensive and far more power-hungry chips in their computers?
Even within phones not all cores are equal, not just in the clock speed they can run at but in how much processing they can do at the same clock speed. This is why the top processors these days use a heterogeneous mix of cores: a few low-powered ones for ticking-over without using much energy, and a couple of higher-powered ones for short bursts of intensive computation. Chips that use 10 lower-end cores rather than such a mix will be less powerful than these. And how well the firmware controls and coordinates these matters as much as the capabilities of the cores themselves (which has resulted in processors which should on paper have been competitive in reality under-performing).
And how much storage does your £90 phone have? How much does desktop Windows need? And don't forget that the storage of your Android phone is partitioned, so in fact you need to run your OS within one of the partitions, and hence the real question is how large are they? SD cards are irrelevant to this: they are slow, unreliable, and not available at the start of the boot process (in fact they are only mounted at the end of the Android boot sequence).
But the other thing you need to understand is that different chip architectures use different instruction sets, so you need to build your software to run on that architecture. So to the ARM chips used by almost all Android phones the x86 instruction set used by Windows and its applications is meaningless nonsense. This means you either need a custom build of Windows and of the applications you wish to run, or you need an emulator (a layer of software that translates from one set to another) or a virtual machine (a software simulation of a different operating system). And an emulation will by definition always run significantly slower than native code would, which is why you always emulate less demanding systems on more powerful ones (so e.g. run an android emulation on a PC) rather than the other way round.
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Yes, I do agree. I am saying the same. The similarities basically come down but I hope not tooo much. I will have to find out it exactly how much come down.
The architectures of the chips are completely different? Are you sure about this? If yes, this completely changes my situation / my plan!!!
Yes, you are right. I know about this. For example:
The MediaTek Helio X23 employs Tri-cluster, deca-core (4 x 1.4GHz A53 + 4 x 1.8GHz A53, 2 x 2.3GHz A72) 64-bit CPU clocked at 2.3GHz whereas Snapdragon 625 is a high power efficient chip with octa-core (8 x 2.0GHz Cortex-A53 cores) CPUbased on 14nm architecture.
128 GB which is much enough what Cubase needs.
But the point is this:
The architectures of the chips are completely different? Are you sure about this? If yes, this completely changes my situation / my plan!!!
Yes it does change your whatever it is situation/plan. If you want to run desktop Windows software, then you need a PC or laptop with Windows installed.
A PC is x86 processor architecture.
Phone with Mediatek or whatever, is ARM processor architecture.
Yes, absolutely sure.
This is pretty much the best to Cubase you'll find for Android.
https://ntrack.com/digital-audio-workstation.php
I've used it for a bit and was able to make some decent jams.
https://ntrack.com/digital-audio-workstation.php
I've used it for a bit and was able to make some decent jams.
GameTheory
Android Expert
Sorry if this has been already suggested as I didn't read through the entire thread.
You can install a full version of linux on a rooted android phone. This means you can install ubuntu studio version 18.04 which is the latest stable release.
https://ubuntustudio.org/
Here's some of the features for music producers:
https://ubuntustudio.org/tour/audio/
If you need more Cubase alternatives that can run on linux...
https://alternativeto.net/software/cubase/?platform=linux
Also note: Cubase Studio 4 can run on linux using wine, which is like a windows emulator for linux.
By the way, I have a friend that produces music and has sold some beats that he produced in ubuntu studio.
You can install a full version of linux on a rooted android phone. This means you can install ubuntu studio version 18.04 which is the latest stable release.
https://ubuntustudio.org/
Here's some of the features for music producers:
https://ubuntustudio.org/tour/audio/
If you need more Cubase alternatives that can run on linux...
https://alternativeto.net/software/cubase/?platform=linux
Also note: Cubase Studio 4 can run on linux using wine, which is like a windows emulator for linux.
By the way, I have a friend that produces music and has sold some beats that he produced in ubuntu studio.