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dschwa

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Now that Adobe has given up on the iPlatform, what do people think that means for Android? I know there are probably already threads like this but it's my bday, I'm lazy and I've had a couple.

The discussion about AIR coming to Android has me excited because my companies desktop application runs on AIR. Can we pack a 4 GB video app on an Android phone using the SD storage? Time will tell.

For now though, Adobe has officially written off the iPhone and iPad for Flash so I hope my iToy friends will be jealous when I get flash on my Droid.
 
Hopefully it will mean more Flash updates, keeping phones up with the current versions of Flash available on computers, and optimisation. Regardless of what I think of Jobs, he's still right that Flash is resource heavy.
 
Android will prevail (and so will adobe), I am banking my future on it by starting a new company devoted to android app development.
 
Well, it's quite a pity for the iPhone OS to be a closed source OS, with Android, I think it will be perfect to use Flash on it as I think Android is an OS with high performance.
 
Pryomancer said:
Hopefully it will mean more Flash updates, keeping phones up with the current versions of Flash available on computers, and optimisation. Regardless of what I think of Jobs, he's still right that Flash is resource heavy.
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Flash really isn't that resource heavy...look at the tests. It's resource heavy on a Mac but not on a PC. I'm not sure about Android but I'm sure it will be optimized.
 
Pryomancer said:
Hopefully it will mean more Flash updates, keeping phones up with the current versions of Flash available on computers, and optimisation. Regardless of what I think of Jobs, he's still right that Flash is resource heavy.
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You've literally said what I was going to post :D
 
Flash is widely used only because it was the only way to show video on the Web. Regardless of this fact, there is no reason why web browsers and sites can't do this natively, with open codecs and HTML5, and using proper graphics acceleration.

There is no reason why you need a plugin to watch something as basic as a video.

So in this regard, I think it's good that Apple for fighting with Adobe to isolate them from the iPhone/iPad/iWhatever markets, to bring about this change.

However, the real reason for Apple doing this is not performance reasons or open standards, but because they want people to specifically write iPhone apps and a huge Flash market of games and apps allows these same apps to run on other platforms.

Android (being able to run Flash in the interim) and open standards are both going to gain from this fight. So let 'em fight... :D
 
CapeTownAndroidDude said:
There is no reason why you need a plugin to watch something as basic as a video.

So in this regard, I think it's good that Apple for fighting with Adobe to isolate them from the iPhone/iPad/iWhatever markets, to bring about this change.
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Right... except that flash isn't going anywhere anytime soon. All Apple is doing is hurting their customers by avoiding flash. As it stands currently, HTML5 has no standards for video, not to mention it's not as efficient (currently).
 
Adobe still has the lead, but they need to keep it. And more than likely they will. No-one has surpassed them for multimedia solutions.
 
I would say that Adobe giving up on Apple could only mean good things for Android! Adobe will be able to focus the time it would have used for Apple on Android products instead.
 
Generally I agree that Flash is a good idea for Android. My only concern is going to be it's size and how it handle's system resources. My experience with Adobe products is that they tend to be resource hogs. I agree that ultimately, the open source android/linux community will probably add HTML5 directly to the linux code and allow app development using features inherent to the language. It seems to me that such would be the more efficient, long term way to go. That said, it might be a long time before websites as a whole change over to such a new format, so there is a long in between period during which Adobe Flash would remain relevant and desirable. I'm just having a hard time seeing a long term role for flash.
 
Isthmus said:
Generally I agree that Flash is a good idea for Android. My only concern is going to be it's size and how it handle's system resources. My experience with Adobe products is that they tend to be resource hogs. I agree that ultimately, the open source android/linux community will probably add HTML5 directly to the linux code and allow app development using features inherent to the language. It seems to me that such would be the more efficient, long term way to go. That said, it might be a long time before websites as a whole change over to such a new format, so there is a long in between period during which Adobe Flash would remain relevant and desirable. I'm just having a hard time seeing a long term role for flash.
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The expected completion date of html 5 is 2022. That's a long time.
 
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