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chukka63

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Whats the latest on this and when is the likely date it will start.I need a handset that works properly all the time and i want it bloatware free.
I've had four Nexus 4/5's and had problems with them all.
If i went for a different handset now is there any way to remove all the bloatware and for the handset to work without any issues caused by the removal of such bloatware.
 
The "best" info we have on android silver is a debut in Feb 2015. That was a tweet from EVLeaks, and he's been wrong before. There's a small chance we may hear more about it at Google I/O, but I won't expect to see a device for it.

What I've come to find out in my time with other devices is its really hard to de-bloat them to the level of the nexus. For instance, you can root and uninstall Samsung's S-Whatever apps but its really the touchwiz layer itself that bogs the device down. Thats so deep rooted you can't just undo it.

So you can throw an AOSP ROM on there, but AOSP ROMS built for non-AOSP devices tend to be buggy. Developers typically have to reverse engineer drivers and the whole thing is kind of hacked together. Nothing against the great developers - they do magical things with what they're given, but they aren't given the tools they need most of the time.

The exception of this is devices that are either Google Play editions, or have google play counterparts that you can flash the GPE ROM on from. The downside is you lose most of the special sauce those manufacturers put into the device to persuade you to buy to begin with.

For curiosity's sake - what issues have you had with each of the devices?
 
Signal is the biggest issue.I'm self empployed and NEED my phone to work/have signal as much as is possible.I know some signal issues can be carrier related and finding out which is the problem is also an issue.
The other day at work my son was getting texts/calls using the same carrier so this seemed to answer the question,is it the handset or the carrier.Previously he was with a different carrier so couldn't tell.He is now with the same carrier so it has to be the phone ???.I had no signal ALL day,received NO texts or calls.Once i get home,then i get them all.
Another thing that regurlay happen is also carrier or phone issue.I can be next to my sure signal box with full signal,a call comes in and goes straight to voicemail,a minute or 2 later i get a notification to tell me i have a voicemail.Why didn't the call just come through to my handset instead of going to voicemail.However,that issue may have been solved in the last few moments but will have to keep an eye on it.
Sorry if i haven't explained my point very well.
I love the nexus concept and i love the N5 handset but i hate other people being able to use their phones and i can't.
 
Moto handsets are known for their great radios. I've never owned one myself, but something like the MotoX might be right up your alley.

The motoX also has a very close to stock android experience and has gotten very quick updates from motorola. They released the 4.4.3 update within a week of google doing it.

If you don't want to spend that much you could also check out the moto E or moto G. They're lower specc'd but also lower priced.

I also just wanted to say its possible its still a carrier related issue. I've had very weird things happen in the past with my account having service issues and none of my family experiencing it. It was only able to be cleared up by calling the carrier.

Switching phones would help you narrow that down. A simple test would be to switch your sons phone to your account for a few days and have him take yours. If your issues clear up - you know it was the phone and I'd suggest the moto X. If your issues don't clear up with his phone you know its something funky going on with the carrier.

The only downside with the moto X is that its been out for about 10 months now (in the US, Europe didnt see it til Feb 2014), and I'd expect the next generation to be coming out before too long. I'm not sure if I've seen any rumors about it yet.

Edit:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobil...e-date-specs-price-moto-x1-have-1080p-display
 
chukka63 said:
The other day at work my son was getting texts/calls using the same carrier so this seemed to answer the question,is it the handset or the carrier.Previously he was with a different carrier so couldn't tell.He is now with the same carrier so it has to be the phone ???.
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Not necessarily true.

I'm not sure which carrier you are with, but in the US, Sprint has weird issues.
Triband devices (like N5), when on Sprint, do not support two separate transmission paths for CDMA and LTE at the same time. So, when the device is in Sprint LTE coverage area, it will park in the LTE only.

What this means is that the device will not be on the CDMA network (which is used for voice). So, what Sprint does is this - when it tries to forward a call to your phone, and doesn't find your phone on the CDMA network, it will check on the LTE network. If it finds your phone on the LTE network, it tells your phone to disconnect from LTE and connect to CDMA, thus enabling the call to go thru'. This is CFSB (Circuit Switched Fallback)

In some areas, CFSB is not available, and so, the device just stays on the CDMA network (and no LTE signal). Which is again, ok for voice calls.
The problem happens when CFSB fails, and calls don't get routed.

The other problem happens when Sprint is in the middle of an upgrade, you may be in an area covered by LTE (only), with no CDMA coverage. In that area, you may end up with no voice calls, and to make it worse, this may be sporadic (as Sprint tests the two networks).

I had to deal with this issue for about a month or so, so I feel your pain.

I'm not saying that this is the same issue in your case, but just wanted to indicate that the network can present different results for different devices.

P.S. you can read more about the CFSB issue for Sprint here
 
Hes in the UK on vondaphone, so its probably not a CSFB issue. You're right though that there is a possibility its still network/carrier related even though other phones on the network are acting fine.
 
Thx for your replies.Is the LG 3G anywhere near vanilla as if i understand it, the nexus line is based on the current LG handset of that particular time ?.
I have no 4G/LTE here.
 
chukka63 said:
Thx for your replies.Is the LG 3G anywhere near vanilla as if i understand it, the nexus line is based on the current LG handset of that particular time ?.
I have no 4G/LTE here.
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LG designed them around the flagship they were developing. It cuts down on costs. That wasn't necessarily the case before LG produced the last 2 nexii

The nexus 5 was based on the LG G2, and the Nexus 4 was based on the LG Optimus G, but the software is not the same. LG has its skin over the top.

How much the skin deviates from stock I'm not sure, as I haven't had an opportunity to play with the G2
 
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