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Apps Running in the Background

gcruse54

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Hey yall I have an EVO and I have a problem with it. I downloaded the app Advanced Task Killer to take care of apps running in the background. However sometimes when I pull it up I find that things like Sprint Navigation, Qik, Voice Dialer, and sometimes others are running without me pulling them up.

My question is, how do I keep these apps from doing this, because they kill my battery when they come on and I don't know it?
 
You are just wasting your time.

Stop even looking at what's running and let Android do it's job.

Android Developers Blog: Multitasking the Android Way

this is not android "doing its job", and you are not wasting your time. That has to be the most deflective, ignorant response i have seen to this very commonly asked question. just because android is capable of multitasking, doesnt mean it is something that it MUST do. there is no problem with someone not wanting something to run in the background that they never use. these phones are very expensive and users have every right to inquire and be concerned with what is going on with their phone, especially if it is affecting their phone's performance or battery life.

This is the beauty of having android for an OS. If you want to eat everything the official Android evelopers feed you and allow your phone to run you, as opposed to you running your phone, than buy an iphone and let Steve Jobs tell you how to breathe. Android is for free-thinking users who want control over a device they paid a lot of money for. Android gives the user the power to control these types of things, given the user has the proper knowledge. Rooting expands that power even more. Of course some things are risky, but not if you do your research, only impatient people who dont read up on things are the ones who really mess up their phones. The major complaint from IPhone users is how they have absolutely no control over their OS and what is going on with it, the phone thinks for them and it makes them feel like Apple owns them. SO you're telling me that if someone has the ability to facilitate their OS and what it is doing behind their back, that they should just ignore it and go along with whatever it does? Incorrect.

To answer your question, if you root your device you can delete some stock applications that come with the phone (use caution, deleting some can mess things up, but there are some useless ones that can be deleted. based on your device, there should be a list on some of the modding forums that tell you which are safe and which are not). www.modmymobile.com, www.xda-developers.com, www.modaco.com are good places for reference for things like that. XDA would be best for an HTC device like the EVO, but keep in mind its a brand-new phone, so there wont be as much info available on it as opposed to previous devices.
There are also applications for rooted phones that will close unused apps once your memory drops to a certain point, to prevent phone-lag and force closes.

if you are not rooted, you can use an app like "startup auditor" that automatically detects apps that open on their own and stay open in the background. it EFFECTIVELY stops them from opening, and keeps them closed, unlike a task killer where either you have to constantly do it manually (which is virtually ineffective, or just kills apps in time intervals but never actually keeps them closed. Again, with startup auditor, there is a good amount of things you can keep closed, but there are some apps that you should leave a lone or you will mess things up (do some research, or ask on a forum).

All in all, in regards to your concern, task-killers are obsolete, and pretty much useless/ineffective...but there are certainly effective methods to go about controlling your phone's virtual memory/battery usage.

Sorry for running on, but it irritates me when someone asks a good question and gets treated like an idiot. If I had listened to/thought like people like "lexluthor" when I first started using Android, then I never would have learned 1/4 of the stuff I have learned about how to enhance my Android experience...and believe me, theres a lot to be learned and enjoyed. Like when I had no idea what rooting was, and whenever I asked people were like "if you dont know, then you probably shouldnt even do it". what the hell kind of answer is that, it doesnt contribute to the community whatsoever. I ignored and kept goign with it. I went from knowing nothing about Android to becoming a developer, just from the helps of forums and blogs. If youre going to give answers like that then dont even bother responding.
 
I found the article posted by Lexluthor interesting. Reading about how the Android OS works is a good start to have a better understanding of how it's different than traditional OS's. Sure there are tweakers and it's encouraged, but if someone's just starting out with Android, it's better to get the basics right.
 
True, I see so many posts here and otherwise from admitted newbies indicating how they think need an task manager to stop tasks all day long.

That appears to be not at all necessary with Android.

Sure, it's great to have an open OS that you can do all sorts of customizations too, no one is saying not to do that. But, it's nice to not have to worry one bit about memory management too if you want to go that route.
 
I found the article posted by Lexluthor interesting. Reading about how the Android OS works is a good start to have a better understanding of how it's different than traditional OS's. Sure there are tweakers and it's encouraged, but if someone's just starting out with Android, it's better to get the basics right.

Of course, always understand the technology before using it. And then you can make decisions based on what you find and what you are comfortable with. If you want to leave everything the way is, that is your freedom. If you want to dictate your phone's activities, that is also your freedom. Android is about having freedom with your OS.

My rant was in response to the answer you were given which basically told you to not worry about it, dont even think about it, do what youre told. There is a big difference between not knowing at all, and knowing but just choosing not to do anything. It would be unsettling to me if I discovered that I had options that were neglected to be mentioned to me. At least by knowing them, regardless of whether or not they affect your current state of mind, you would be able to employ said options if you so desired in the future.

My simplified point: let's say you love rollercoasters, and your buddy took you to a theme park youve never heard of. lets say you asked "whats the biggest, baddest, fastest coaster here?" and he pointed at one and said "well lets just go on that one for now, cause that one is good". and then on your way out to leave the park to go home, you spot a bigger, badder, faster coaster. wouldnt you turn to your buddy and ask "why the hell didnt you tell me about that one?!" ??
 
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