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Help Battery concern (40-80)

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The ideal battery percentage for lithium-ion powered smartphones lies between 40-80 %.

If you're supposed to keep it between 40-80 %, How are you supposed to keep your charging cycles minimal.
Since you're only using 40% of your phone's capacity you're going to have more charge cycles for sure.

NOW That leaves the question..
What's more important, having less charge cycles but charging all the way up to 100% from 20%

Or plugging in the charger when it hits 40% and plug it out when it hits 80%?
 
Basically, batteries work by ion movement, and like a machine, these ions wear out over time due to use. And similar to machines, heavy use wears them out more. You're more likely to break an engine by running it for 1 day at max rev, than running it over a month at half capacity. The smaller the depth of discharge, the lower the wear. Lab tests have concluded that when you constantly discharge from 100 to 0, it allows you betwrrn 300-500 charge cycles before it starts to break down and not hold charges. More specifically, when you reach that magic number your battery can only hold 75% of it's original charge. That's typically 1-2 years of use if you charge once a day. And heavy abusers charge more than once a day, so that decreases the time span to however many weeks it takes them to reach 500 charge cycles. Now, the increase in charge cycles is exponential, not arithmetical. So a depth of discharge to 50 before recharging will not give you 600-1000 charges. Rather it will give you 1200-1500 charge cycles. Mathematically, draining a 3600mah to zero for 300 charges gives you 1080000mah to burn through however short your battery life will be. On the other hand, using only 50% of the battery before recharging gives you 2160000mah to burn through before it expires after at least 1200 charge cycles. In other words, it stored twice more power for you to use. If you say, charge once every 24hrs, going always from 100 to 0 gives you at least 300 days. Recharging twice a day at 50% gives your battery at least 600 days of use before battery capacity deteriorates noticeably. Discharging to 75% before recharging actually gives you 2000-2500 charge cycles, making it even longer. Basically the point is, always plug the phone in when given the chance. Don't wait for 50%, or whatever. 40% is an arbitrary number actually, not sure why it's chosen. Also, this is why one of the choices to auto activate power saving in the S7 is at 50%, so that it keeps the battery up as close to 50% as possible when you get the chance to plug in.

As for charging to 80%, this is because partial charge is better than full charge for lithium ion batteries. The ions are placed on stress to hold charges. Maximum stress is at 100% charge. And like everything else, stuff tends to break more. So not running it to 100% all the time will reduce overall stress experienced and increase the time before deterioration occurs. Personally I charge to 90%, and discharge to 40% or above. That's a 50% depth of charge, so that's good for up to 1500 charge cycles, plus whatever number of cycles the decrease in max stress gives me.

However, note that environmental temperatures also play a role in battery longevity.
 
So you're suggesting that it's better for the battery to charge twice a day 40-90 rather than making one full charge from 20% (not 0) to 100%?
 
So you're suggesting that it's better for the battery to charge twice a day 40-90 rather than making one full charge from 20% (not 0) to 100%?
Yes. The smaller the depth of discharge, the better it is for the battery. It's not the battery percentage that's important. It's how much was discharged. Charging the battery from 30-80% will have rhe same effect in general as charging from 40-90% as both present a 50% discharge depth. Charging from 70-100% actually is even better.
 
Yes. The smaller the depth of discharge, the better it is for the battery. It's not the battery percentage that's important. It's how much was discharged. Charging the battery from 30-80% will have rhe same effect in general as charging from 40-90% as both present a 50% discharge depth. Charging from 70-100% actually is even better.

That means the amount of charge cycles you make in a day isn't important. Rather you should strive to have
50% discharge depth each time you recharge, am I right?
 
That means the amount of charge cycles you make in a day isn't important. Rather you should strive to have
50% discharge depth each time you recharge, am I right?
Yes that is correct. That will let your battery hold full charge twice as long as compared to if you discharging closer to 100%. If you charge 4x a day at 50%, that would simply mean you'd have been charging 2-3x a day if you were charging at maybe 10 or 20%. So same calculations apply.
 
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