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Choosing an unlocked phone for T-mobile

gigg423

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I have decided to switch from Virgin Mobile to T-Mobile, and I have a few questions..

I think I would prefer to buy an unlocked phone and use it with the Tmobile service. How do I make sure it will work? Will any quad band phone work?

Also, what about data, do I need to look for anything specific, can I get 4g on an unlocked phone?

And finally, is there a good resource when shopping for an unlocked phone? I have found several on Amazon, but I think they are all no warranty, which seems a little odd.

BTW I understand I need to get a GSM not a CDMA phone..
 
I think I would prefer to buy an unlocked phone and use it with the Tmobile service. How do I make sure it will work? Will any quad band phone work? BTW I understand I need to get a GSM not a CDMA phone.

First, yes it has to be a GSM phone, not a CDMA phone, which means (as a practical matter if you're in the US), that it must have a SIM slot. And that means, basically, only an AT&T phone. There are exceptions, but I'm pretty sure Virgin Mobile phones won't work, although I've never had a Virgin Mobile phone. If I'm wrong about that I know that at least a dozen people on this forum will jump all over me within 15 minutes. :p

As for "work," that means (even if it is an AT&T phone) that voice and text will work fine, but data will be limited to 2G (Edge) speeds, although some AT&T phones can get 3G speeds on T-Mobile's frequencies.

Also, what about data, do I need to look for anything specific, can I get 4g on an unlocked phone?

Only a true T-Mobile phone can get their 4G speeds. Let me clarify. T-Mobile offers data speeds at 2G (Edge), 3G, 4G HSPA+21 and 4G HSPA+42. HSPA+42 is generally as fast as the LTE service offered by Verizon, AT&T and (soon) Sprint, although local conditions vary. And HSPA+42 is available so far only in limited areas, although supposedly it will be enabled throughout the T-Mobile system by the end of 2012.

Note that there are two versions of "4G." All T-Mobile "4G" phones can use the HSPA+21 service (available most places now), but only the Amaze and Galaxy S2 can use the HSPA+42 service. Of course, future T-Mobile phones will be HSPA+42 enabled.

And finally, is there a good resource when shopping for an unlocked phone? I have found several on Amazon, but I think they are all no warranty, which seems a little odd..

I love Craigslist for phone shopping because I can limit the search to local sellers. That way I can see the phone before plunking down the cash. I'd be scared to buy on eBay, or even Amazon.

When I signed up for T-Mobile about August last year I went first to a T-Mobile store with my ancient unlocked AT&T Razr V3. I got a SIM card and signed up for the $70 unlimited everything prepaid plan. I put the SIM card in the Razr and it worked right from the start. Later I bought a two-year old MyTouch 3G on Craigslist, put the SIM card in it, and it worked immedately. Since it was a T-Mobile phone I didn't have to worry if it was unlocked or not. Shortly after the Galaxy S2 came to T-Mobile I found a local fellow on Craigslist who had bought one and then suddenly needed to raise money, so he offered it for $480, brand new in the box. Again, it was a T-Mobile SGS2, so no need to worry about being unlocked. His reasoning for the price was that he paid $530 and T-Mobile would have charged him a $50 restocking fee, so the $480 was the best he could do anyway. I bought it, put the SIM card in it, and it worked.

I sense that you're new to Android and smartphones. I suggest you spend a couple days Googling to get a bit more education. It's pretty complicated and making the right choice for your personal needs is not trivial. :o
 
Thanks,
I most mostly curious about the edge, 3g etc etc. I have an android now on VM, and I am looking to replace it for something bigger and faster, that's why I am thinking of jumping ship to Tmobile. It sounds like I might be better off just buying a Tmobile phone to ensure I get at least the HSPA+21. I wonder how slow is edge 2g though. I wonder if it would be sufficient for the few things I do when I am away from Wi Fi
 
A few non-T-Mobile phones are compatible with T-Mobile 3G/4G. My Nokia N900 is an example. Very simply put, when picking a phone the thing to look for is the number '1700' in the data frequency specs - that's the special data frequency T-Mobile uses.

Easiest way to ensure data network compatibility of course is to buy a new or used T-Mobile phone.
 
After some digging it seems NewEgg has a decent selection of unlocked phones, and they pretty clearly tell you what you can get on each carrier. Well AT&T or T-mobile. Just browse the off contract phones.
 
If you are going to buy an unlocked phone which will cost a bit of money, might as well get one that is compatible with T-Mobile's 3G network. The T-Mobile's HSPA network (aka 3G, but known as 4G as a marketing term) required a phone compatible with 1700mhz (for upload) and 2100mhz (for download). You can use gsmarena.com to check on phone specs.

ATT phones uses 1900 and 2100, so it won't work on T-Mobile HSPA network (T-Mobile is making a data roaming deal with ATT, but just assume it won't work.) But you can still use EDGE which means about 150-250kbps (average 10-15kilobytes download speed).

There are also few phones that are pentaband which will works with both networks, since they will accept both 1700 and 1900 frequencies.

If you plan to get a phone compatible with T-Mobile HSPA+, check for HPSA speed rating, some phones is up to 14mbps, some 21 and the ones with qualcomm chip can achieve 42mbps.

I guess a decent phone is would be a used Galaxy S 4G T959V, I gets up to 3Mbps. The Galaxy S II T989 is rated at 42Mbps which gets me 24Mbps read life download speed in a hotspot area.

I don't recommend spending too much money for a 800x480 resolution unlocked phone with all the HD ones coming out.
 
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