Cyanogen v. regular Android

[Rgarner]

I just read that Wileyfox was making the apparently unusual move of running Cyanogen 12.1 instead of regular Android AND that they are now backing away from that and maybe forcing Nougat at people. What are the benefits of Cyanogen 12.1? Why would they decide otherwise and go stock?

 

[bcrichster]

I just read that Wileyfox was making the apparently unusual move of running Cyanogen 12.1 instead of regular Android AND that they are now backing away from that and maybe forcing Nougat at people. What are the benefits of Cyanogen 12.1? Why would they decide otherwise and go stock?

CM-12.1 is also Lollipop-5.1. Most stock Android is a super slimmed down AOSP with very few options, whereas any Cyanogenmod ROM has options galore. I'd choose CM over Stock any day

 

[mikedt]

Isn't CyanogenMod dead, Cyanogen, Inc is defunct, and Lineage OS took over basically? And Wileyfox is making new phones with Lollipop 5.x on them? Which I can't see any benefits in that at all, especially when most manufacturers are making Nougat 7.x devices, and now Oreo 8.x.

 

[Hadron]

Yup, I agree. The confusion arises from CyanogenMod using different numbering from the Android release it's based on.

CyanogenMod is dead. It used to be a community ROM, a few of the lead developers tried to make a commercial product out of it (despite it hardly being all their work), the company failed and fell apart. Lineage is the successor to CM as a ROM, but I've never used it so can't comment (however CM was never that great IMO). WileyFox staying with CM would mean never updating beyond a very old Android version. I don't know what they include with their update, but staying with the old software means stagnation. It's your choice, but the fiasco of commercial CyanogenMod hasn't left them any real choice.

 

[zuben el genub]

Isn't CyanogenMod dead, Cyanogen, Inc is defunct, and Lineage OS took over basically? And Wileyfox is making new phones with Lollipop 5.x on them? Which I can't see any benefits in that at all, especially when most manufacturers are making Nougat 7.x devices, and now Oreo 8.x.

You could probably answer this - When I had the Find 7 and they said to root it to upgrade in the Oppo forum, there were 3 GAPS options with one of the options being minimum. I thought I saw the same in the upgrades for Cyanogen. I don't think Google is too happy with those of us who don't want all it's services and they are putting a foot down.

The more free crap, the less I like. I don't need most of Google's services.

I now have the OP5

 

[Asenter]

Isn't CyanogenMod dead, Cyanogen, Inc is defunct, and Lineage OS took over basically? And Wileyfox is making new phones with Lollipop 5.x on them? Which I can't see any benefits in that at all, especially when most manufacturers are making Nougat 7.x devices, and now Oreo 8.x.

Maybe the pedigree system has basically taken over ,

 

[mikedt]

You could probably answer this - When I had the Find 7 and they said to root it to upgrade in the Oppo forum,

I also used a Find 7, which I've still got as a spare phone. But the Oppo forum that I was a member of as well, that's effectively been shut-down, all threads and posts deleted, and now is only for Vietnam, Indonesia and Taiwan. Oppo Style their official online retailer for western markets, like North America and Europe, that closed earlier this year.

there were 3 GAPS options with one of the options being minimum. I thought I saw the same in the upgrades for Cyanogen. I don't think Google is too happy with those of us who don't want all it's services and they are putting a foot down.

Not just Google, I think Oppo changed direction themselves. All their current devices like the R series are very locked down, root difficult or impossible, and no custom ROM support from Oppo at all. Oppo now is all about their own Color OS.

The more free crap, the less I like. I don't need most of Google's services.

I now have the OP5

Not sure the situation with OP, now if they still actively support, rooting and custom development for their products? They stopped with Cyanogen a long time ago, and their Oxygen OS(Hydrogen OS in China) was developed in-house.

 

[zuben el genub]

I also used a Find 7, which I've still got as a spare phone. But the Oppo forum that I was a member of as well, that's effectively been shut-down, all threads and posts deleted, and now is only for Vietnam, Indonesia and Taiwan. Oppo Style their official online retailer for western markets, like North America and Europe, that closed earlier this year.



Not just Google, I think Oppo changed direction themselves. All their current devices like the R series are very locked down, root difficult or impossible, and no custom ROM support from Oppo at all. Oppo now is all about their own Color OS.



Not sure the situation with OP, now if they still actively support, rooting and custom development for their products? They stopped with Cyanogen a long time ago, and their Oxygen OS(Hydrogen OS in China) was developed in-house.

That's too bad. I liked Color OS. I've still got the Find as a backup. I like Oxygen, too. That Oppo forum was fun to read. Apparently you can get root for Legacy OS.

 

[Spec2nirvash]

I wish one plus hadn't screwed us over with the 1+X. I loved the phone with the exception of the constant intermittent rebooting that they refused to fix. They completely ignored us until literally the day after the warranty expired so they could tell me to FO. First and last phone I'll buy from them.

 

[Kathleenmlk]

Does this mean that if I wanted Cyanogen I would have to get Lineage instead? How would I do this and what are the benefits? Is it more customizable, less bloat, fewer resources used, etc.?

 

[bcrichster]

Does this mean that if I wanted Cyanogen I would have to get Lineage instead? How would I do this and what are the benefits? Is it more customizable, less bloat, fewer resources used, etc.?

Yes, your best option would be to build it. I built LineageOS-12.1 for kicks during the Hurricane Irma and it booted up, still saying CyanogenMod (CM-12.1) after the LineageOS bring-up. The Official LineageOS name didn't get backported below LOS-13.0. Yes, much more cuatomizable, no Google apps except that which you install, better performance and some devices have OverClock to help with intensive processes like gaming.

 

[Kathleenmlk]

Wow, that sounds great. How on Earth would I do that? I have little to no experience with these things.

 

[Rgarner]

Yeah, how would mere mortals get a hold of that? It sounds like a dream not having to put up with Google. I try to use as little of their junk as I can, but they make it almost impossible.