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duped by Iphone

dosahl

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Just a testimonial - nothing else. My family owns 3 android phones and all of us are currently happy with those phones. Incredible 2 Razr and Rezound. To keep us all in our current plan, my wife decided to join the smart phone revolution. She was debating between the rezound and the iphone I tried to be diplomatic and let her make the decision as it was indeed her phone and not mine. I had heard all of the hype about ease of use and simplicity to set up so I conveyed that to her. SHe decided on the ipoop even though she had three helpers at home with android systems. The salesperson at verizon also told her of the ease of use and how even old people can get them running. All of the hype and media and marketing is wrong. My wife is now frustrated with her iphone because she cannot do any of the simple tasks she wants to do. One day into it and she is thinking of taking the phone back and going back to her dumb phone. I feel like I let the marketing and hype sell the phone rather than logic. The cost to take back and get a rezound may not make it worth her while as she is seemingly giving up on the whole smartphone craze. It is only a day but she is not too patient. DAMN APPLE
 
Yes its phones are good for some people. That is why I thought she had made a good decision. The complete reliance on Itunes is an issue for me to begin with. She will not be using any music service at all, so their all in one answer (pictures, contacts, icloud) voids any freedom of choice for what is best for each individual user. Forcing the itunes is good for some but not all. It is similar to having a google account that is necessary for the android play store but the Itunes in incredibly intrusive and controlling. yes some people will like that. Currently, My wife has not subscribed yet because she is a bit leary for whatever reason. The issues she has are currently dealing with the differences from her old dumb phone. She has a sound clips that she likes to use as text notifications for our children (their voices from younger days). I sent those clips to her via text message and she cannot save those to her phone for their notification. It was simple on her old LG octane. She also wants the calendar reminder to beep more than one time on notification because she has not heard it the first and only beep. Those are two basic tasks that are currently causing her grief and making her second guess her choice. I do indeed want it to work for her, and I continually offer my assistance and help as needed. She will learn to like the convenience of power in her pocket but if the frustration overrides the reward, she will just have and expensive texting machine. She will get used to it and will come to enjoy it. If BSP has the solutions to those basic requests, let me have them and I will pass them on to her; she will be forever grateful.
 
I just thing she needs adequate time to adjust to her new phone. Yes many like to brag how simple and easy the iphone is to use but each and every individual is different. I come across many with iphones that have questions or don't know how to do a task on their iphone but eventually gets it after they are shown how it is done. Coming from a flip phone to an iphone is a big leap for some, only time will tell if her new device is the one that fits her needs.
 
Yes its phones are good for some people. That is why I thought she had made a good decision. The complete reliance on Itunes is an issue for me to begin with. She will not be using any music service at all, so their all in one answer (pictures, contacts, icloud) voids any freedom of choice for what is best for each individual user. Forcing the itunes is good for some but not all. It is similar to having a google account that is necessary for the android play store but the Itunes in incredibly intrusive and controlling. yes some people will like that. Currently, My wife has not subscribed yet because she is a bit leary for whatever reason. The issues she has are currently dealing with the differences from her old dumb phone. She has a sound clips that she likes to use as text notifications for our children (their voices from younger days). I sent those clips to her via text message and she cannot save those to her phone for their notification. It was simple on her old LG octane. She also wants the calendar reminder to beep more than one time on notification because she has not heard it the first and only beep. Those are two basic tasks that are currently causing her grief and making her second guess her choice. I do indeed want it to work for her, and I continually offer my assistance and help as needed. She will learn to like the convenience of power in her pocket but if the frustration overrides the reward, she will just have and expensive texting machine. She will get used to it and will come to enjoy it. If BSP has the solutions to those basic requests, let me have them and I will pass them on to her; she will be forever grateful.

This should fix some of the issues:

1) The Calendar Alert Issue: iOS can repeat alerts up to once a day (unfortunately Apple has yet to fix this issue). My solution would be Notification Center: Just slide it down and you can see all Calendar events. Obviously, this is not an ideal solution, and is definitely an area where Apple falls behind on. However, there is a huge amount of Calendar applications in the App Store-- check out some of those (I'm certain that many feature repeating reminders).

2) iTunes: You're not forced to purchase any music on iTunes. What is the specific problem with Contacts, Photos, and iCloud? There are application substitutions for these apps (i.e. Instagram, and a plethora of other apps for the other problems).

3) Notification Sound Clips: This'll actually be easier to accomplish with your Razr/ Rezound:
1) Text the sound clips to your android phone

2) Download them
3) Transfer them to your computer
4) Look up a tutorial on how to make an iTunes ring tone on YouTube (can't remember the exact method off the top of my head)
5) They should then be transferred to your iPhone after learning how to make one
6) Go to Settings --> Sound --> Text Tone --> Sound Clip Ringtone Name
7) There are a ton of apps for doing this on the App Store as well (making ringtones, that is)
-It's definitely doable-- I've done this when I had an iPhone instead of a GNex

The one thing you can always count on when having troubles with an iPhone is that there is an app in many situations to fix your problem.

Hope this helps!
 
3 android users in your house and not one of you is smart enough to help her or is it against your android religion to do so?
 
Here is my take. Take the phone back and go Android. What I am hearing is a need for choice, raw file access and choice. Workarounds are often not ideal in the Apple world, because often it isn't global.

Android's intents protocol are far more global and work within the framework of choice. Android devices often simply need a folder with files to "allow" a file to be assigned to a task, such as a notification tone or ringtone.

Hope this was helpful.

jmar
 
thanks for the help and comments.
The work arounds for the two issues are not as simple as she would have liked. I have read another thread that said email the sound to the phone and then it can be downloaded as an attachment. Then off to an app. For my android I use a simple ringtone maker. She will be ble to find the same for the iphone. I had already told her about the calendar events. She is like many who "like it the way it was" so it will be some adjusting. I will get her to research some apps that may work for her.
Yes we are all smart enough to help her but she is often not patient enough for our help. Anyone who has been around frustration knows this. She wants the fix right now-not after we look at the problem and problem solve with her. The android religion is pretty strong-Just like the Iphone religion I guess.
She will like the phone and I encourage her to do so. I am not so set on android that I cannot accept other people using the iphone.
Maybe someone can help with this one. on my phone, after I take a picture I have the immediate opportunity to send the picture off in text message. From the gallary I can share and send. I have not seen this in the Iphone. SHe has to open text message and attach photo. She is impatient and does not like the extra two steps.
I do not think she will take the phone back.......she ordered cases.
Thanks
 
She will just have to deal with the Way the iPhone is for sending Photographs. If she does not like it, she can always buy an Android. I know of no way to help her woth that, and I don't think there are such Applications available for the iOS Devices.
 
thanks for the help and comments.
The work arounds for the two issues are not as simple as she would have liked. I have read another thread that said email the sound to the phone and then it can be downloaded as an attachment. Then off to an app. For my android I use a simple ringtone maker. She will be ble to find the same for the iphone. I had already told her about the calendar events. She is like many who "like it the way it was" so it will be some adjusting. I will get her to research some apps that may work for her.
Yes we are all smart enough to help her but she is often not patient enough for our help. Anyone who has been around frustration knows this. She wants the fix right now-not after we look at the problem and problem solve with her. The android religion is pretty strong-Just like the Iphone religion I guess.
She will like the phone and I encourage her to do so. I am not so set on android that I cannot accept other people using the iphone.
Maybe someone can help with this one. on my phone, after I take a picture I have the immediate opportunity to send the picture off in text message. From the gallary I can share and send. I have not seen this in the Iphone. SHe has to open text message and attach photo. She is impatient and does not like the extra two steps.
I do not think she will take the phone back.......she ordered cases.
Thanks

In the native camera app, let's say immediately after you take a picture, hit the little preview pane in the bottom left corner of the app and the picture should appear. A transparent-ish menu pane should appear (if it doesn't just tap the picture once). Click the second button to the left on the bottom pane. There you will be presented with many ways to send pictures. In iOS 6 you'll also be able to post directly to FaceBook (if that matters).
 
Here is my take. Take the phone back and go Android. What I am hearing is a need for choice, raw file access and choice. Workarounds are often not ideal in the Apple world, because often it isn't global.

Android's intents protocol are far more global and work within the framework of choice. Android devices often simply need a folder with files to "allow" a file to be assigned to a task, such as a notification tone or ringtone.

Hope this was helpful.

jmar

You're completely right. One thing I love about Android (and the main reason I converted) was XDA. I've yet to encounter one feature that I've desired for my phone that wasn't available through XDA.
 
got the picture thing figured out thanks bsp. It is basically the same as the android. As stated, she had not let us touch the phone at times as she asked questions so that ws simple. Thanks
 
She has a sound clips that she likes to use as text notifications for our children (their voices from younger days). I sent those clips to her via text message and she cannot save those to her phone for their notification.

It took me hours to figure this out. I tried to get a ring tone from her old Android phone to her iPhone. You have to use iTunes to do this. I had to change some import setting in iTunes first. I'll have to find it out later when I check my wife's iTunes. Then I import the sound file which is an MP3 file into iTunes. This will convert the .MP3 file to an .m4a file. Now you have to rename this to an .m4r file. Just rename the file and change the extension. I had to use the DOS prompt's rename command to do this. Once you renamed the file, iTunes will then let you drag this file to the ring tones folder. Once you do this, you can select this as your ring tone on your iPhone.

I'm not sure about notifications. I think it may work the same way or similar. I didn't set any notfication sounds on my wife's iPhone, so I cannot be exactly sure.

I don't know the exact settings in iTunes that you have to change. I'll check it later and edit this post with the info. It's some import setting in the preferences.
 
I had about three days of fear and frustration when i switched from a normal phone to a smartphone.
So, I think it is not just the iphone that is difficult, especially when you switch for the first time.
 
This should fix some of the issues:

1) The Calendar Alert Issue: iOS can repeat alerts up to once a day (unfortunately Apple has yet to fix this issue). My solution would be Notification Center: Just slide it down and you can see all Calendar events. Obviously, this is not an ideal solution, and is definitely an area where Apple falls behind on. However, there is a huge amount of Calendar applications in the App Store-- check out some of those (I'm certain that many feature repeating reminders).

2) iTunes: You're not forced to purchase any music on iTunes. What is the specific problem with Contacts, Photos, and iCloud? There are application substitutions for these apps (i.e. Instagram, and a plethora of other apps for the other problems).

3) Notification Sound Clips: This'll actually be easier to accomplish with your Razr/ Rezound:
1) Text the sound clips to your android phone

2) Download them
3) Transfer them to your computer
4) Look up a tutorial on how to make an iTunes ring tone on YouTube (can't remember the exact method off the top of my head)
5) They should then be transferred to your iPhone after learning how to make one
6) Go to Settings --> Sound --> Text Tone --> Sound Clip Ringtone Name
7) There are a ton of apps for doing this on the App Store as well (making ringtones, that is)
-It's definitely doable-- I've done this when I had an iPhone instead of a GNex

The one thing you can always count on when having troubles with an iPhone is that there is an app in many situations to fix your problem.

Hope this helps!

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