Just so you know. My daughter had a phone from VM and started having problems with the email and messages being sent multiple times. When she call VM they told her it was a known problem with her phone (which I think was an LG). Anyway the only solution from VM was to purchase another phone, which she did. She then gave the old phone to my wife (her mother) and we tried to transfer the old phone to Ting. Ting is very good provider but said there was a financial hold on the phone and they couldn't transfer it. My daughter checked and there was $1 still owed on the phone which she then paid. Still couldn't transfer. When we called VM they said the phone had to be in use for 1 year before they would release it. Said it was for our safety because it could be stolen. They had the whole history of the phone and knew my daughter bought a new phone from them to fix the problem they knew about when they sold her the original phone. They still wouldn't release the old phone. Their only solution was to activate the old phone on VM but that would just have the original problem back and we didn't want to do that. I find it hard to believe that a company as big as VM would sell you a phone that they couldn't support with a known problem and then wouldn't take it in return or release it to Ting. Just saying........