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General Rooting question

SJBL

SJBL

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I have a question that I have never been able to find an answer for and I hope I can find an answer here. After you root your phone, does your carriers service still work on it or do you need to reset your carrier's service on it? I am thinking of rooting my phone but I was wondering what rooting does to your phone service itself.

I am not new to Linux--I started out with Ubuntu on my pc. When I got a laptop, I migrated to PCLinuxOS. I love Linux operating systems. I have used the command line quite a bit when I had Ubuntu so I am not new to the command line. I am new to rooting a phone, however, so if I do this, I will be asking questions!

Becky
 
Rooting your phone, has NO connection to any carrier (sim) locks that may be on the device... if your phone will work with the sim before its rooted, it will work afterwards.. if it won't work with that sim card before, it still won't work after.

However.. while rooting your device will allow you to do some things that you wouldn't be able to do on an unrooted device, it will also allow you to do stupid things that may brick it, or stop things working... and (depending on the device) there may not be a way to go back (a standard reset won't help here).

If you do root it (and i'm not telling you not to ) you need to be very careful and do plenty of reading.....
 
psionandy said:
Rooting your phone, has NO connection to any carrier (sim) locks that may be on the device... if your phone will work with the sim before its rooted, it will work afterwards.. if it won't work with that sim card before, it still won't work after.

However.. while rooting your device will allow you to do some things that you wouldn't be able to do on an unrooted device, it will also allow you to do stupid things that may brick it, or stop things working... and (depending on the device) there may not be a way to go back (a standard reset won't help here).

If you do root it (and i'm not telling you not to ) you need to be very careful and do plenty of reading.....
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That helps me a lot with my decision about rooting. I really would like to root it. I have become spoiled by Linux and all the freedom I have with doing what I want with Linux and I would like to do the same with my phone. I will definitely ask plenty of questions so I don't brick my phone. There have been plenty of times that I could have ruined my computers if I had not asked questions about how to install something in Linux. My experience with Linux has taught me that no question is a dumb question and those questions get me what I want without hurting my computer. I will apply the same philosophy to my phone.
 
If you use a CDMA network (Sprint/Verizon/USCellular/their MVNOs) and put a custom ROM on the phone you might not be able to activate it if it's not already activated because some custom ROMs don't support their activation process. This is true for Sprint, not positive about Verizon/USCellular. If the phone's already activated you should be fine.

The root process is different for every phone, so follow instructions for your specific device. Here is more information about rooting:
https://androidforums.com/threads/rooting-best-practices.450904/
https://androidforums.com/threads/root-terminology.443075/
https://androidforums.com/threads/youve-went-and-rooted-the-phone-now-what.617220/
 
kate said:
If you use a CDMA network (Sprint/Verizon/USCellular/their MVNOs) and put a custom ROM on the phone you might not be able to activate it if it's not already activated because some custom ROMs don't support their activation process. This is true for Sprint, not positive about Verizon/USCellular. If the phone's already activated you should be fine.

The root process is different for every phone, so follow instructions for your specific device. Here is more information about rooting:
https://androidforums.com/threads/rooting-best-practices.450904/
https://androidforums.com/threads/root-terminology.443075/
https://androidforums.com/threads/youve-went-and-rooted-the-phone-now-what.617220/
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I am not worried about Verizon or Sprint because I am with At&T Go Phone. What I am more worried about at this point is finding the information I need to start doing this, specifically the information I need for my device. I have looked through the forum and am still looking, but I haven't yet been able to find the information I need for my device. I have a Samsung Galaxy Express 3, version 6.0.1, kernal version 3.10.9-7662162
 
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Unfortunately US carrier versions of certain recent Samsungs maybe impossible to root. Express 3 is the AT&T version of Galaxy J1(2016)?

IMO Samsungs are not really the best devices for rooting and modifying now anyway, not with their Knox stuff, non-resettable warranty void counters, etc.

Something to be aware of with a rooted phone, it won't be able to use most banking and financial apps, also Android Pay and Samsung Pay won't be supported either. Basically anything that involves money transactions using the phone. That's a reason why I don't root my daily use smart-phones now, as it would make it rather useless to me, even for renting a bicycle.
 
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mikedt said:
Unfortunately US carrier versions of certain recent Samsungs maybe impossible to root. Express 3 is the AT&T version of Galaxy J1(2016)?

IMO Samsungs are not really the best devices for rooting and modifying now anyway, not with their Knox stuff, non-resettable warranty void counters, etc.

Something to be aware of with a rooted phone, it won't be able to use most banking and financial apps, also Android Pay and Samsung Pay won't be supported either. Basically anything that involves money transactions using the phone. That's a reason why I don't root my daily use smart-phones now, as it would make it rather useless to me.
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Well, it just so happens I have knox on my phone--ouch. Now that I know the truth about that, I guess this thing can't be rooted. However, I don't like to use my phone to pay anything online with anyway. If I pay anything with my phone, I call the company and talk to someone via voice and submit my payment information that way. I feel more secure paying that way. If it is an online payment, I only use my computer. I do all my banking in person--old fashioned security that way. Beyond that, with what you have warned me about here with Samsung, what are the best phones for rooting in your opinion? It would really help me in this journey with rooting. I have an Alcatel here that I could root instead. I could get a sim card for it and move my AT and T service to my alcatel instead of keeping it on my Samsung and root my alcatel instead.
 
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kate said:
That appears to be another name for the Galaxy J1 (2016).
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mikedt said:
Express 3 is the AT&T version of Galaxy J1(2016)?
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SJBL said:
SM-J120A
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Oddly, typing in that model number at the Samsung support site returns the Galaxy Amp 2 from Cricket:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-amp-2-cricket

I really wish they would stop giving what is apparently the same phone different names for different carriers.


SJBL said:
what are the best phones for rooting in your opinion?
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Nexus and Google Pixel. I believe most Moto G versions (bought from Motorola) are easy to root.
 
kate said:
Oddly, typing in that model number at the Samsung support site returns the Galaxy Amp 2 from Cricket:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-amp-2-cricket

I really wish they would stop giving what is apparently the same phone different names for different carriers.



Nexus and Google Pixel. I believe most Moto G versions (bought from Motorola) are easy to root.
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Oh, for pity's sake, that is crazy that they do that. I never even put it all together, but when you point it out, I see what the carriers are doing with the names. Cricket is AT&T's sister company, and we are on AT&T Go Phone. As to the suggestions you gave me, is it best to buy the Moto G directly from Motorola instead of the carrier?
 
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Well, it just so happens I have knox on my phone--ouch. Now that I know the truth about that, I guess this thing can't be rooted. However, I don't like to use my phone to pay anything online with anyway. If I pay anything with my phone, I call the company and talk to someone via voice and submit my payment information that way. I feel more secure paying that way. If it is an online payment, I only use my computer.
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If I'm buying things online at home, I'll normally use my computer(a Macbook). I'm in China, and here for me using a smart-phone for shop, hotel, restaurant payments, has basically taken over from using hard cash. There's also things like if my phone was rooted, I wouldn't even be able to rent a public bicycle. https://androidforums.com/threads/bicycles.1136194/#post-7528660 ...or book a taxi.

SJBL said:
I do all my banking in person--old fashioned security that way. Beyond that, with what you have warned me about here with Samsung, what are the best phones for rooting in your opinion? It would really help me in this journey with rooting. I have an Alcatel here that I could root instead. I could get a sim card for it and move my AT and T service to my alcatel instead of keeping it on my Samsung and root my alcatel instead.
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Alcatels probably not good choices for rooting either, those are made by TCL. And we've had quite a few problem threads with those, were some people have tried to root and bricked them, possibly irreparably, or having to return it to Alcatel or TCL for re-flashing. What Alcatel is it? What is good I think, Google Nexus phones, OnePlus, older Samsungs like S4 and S5, non carrier versions. I've still got a Oppo Find 7 here, which is very easy to root, modify, custom ROM, and do whatever I like with it, although I don't use it now.
 
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kate said:
Yes, it will be unlocked when buying from Motorola. :thumbsupdroid:
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Perfect! I have already been on Motorola's website reviewing prices. Thank you for your awesome help! Both you and Mikedt have helped me sooo much today and helped me narrow down what I need to do. Awesome support and help from both of you, and I appreciate it soo much, especially because when I learn it for myself, I will be helping my family through the process of rooting their phones as well.
 
mikedt said:
If I'm buying things online at home, I'll normally use my computer(a Macbook). I'm in China, and here for me using a smart-phone for shop, hotel, restaurant payments, has basically taken over from using hard cash. There's also things like if my phone was rooted, I wouldn't even be able to rent a public bicycle. https://androidforums.com/threads/bicycles.1136194/#post-7528660 ...or book a taxi.



Alcatels probably not good choices for rooting either, those are made by TCL. And we've had quite a few problem threads with those, were some people have tried to root and bricked them, possibly irreparably, or having to return it to Alcatel or TCL for re-flashing. What Alcatel is it? What is good I think, Google Nexus phones, OnePlus, older Samsungs like S4 and S5, non carrier versions. I've still got a Oppo Find 7 here, which is very easy to root, modify, custom ROM, and do whatever I like with it, although I don't use it now.
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I certainly understand what you are telling me with what you need to do in China. That definitely makes a difference. I am in the US so I am not so bound. Thank you for the phone suggestions--I will look for them. You and Kate have both taught me sooo much today, and I don't know if I can express just how much I appreciate everything the two of you have taught me. Awesome support and help from both you, and it is even more appreciated because I will be helping my family with their phones once I have learned it for myself.
 
I have to say that Psionandy helped me today, too! In no way did I mean to forget the help you gave me Psionandy. You were the first one to answer my question and help me decide whether or not I would even want to root. Now that I know I do, the extra info I got from Kate and Mikedt has shown me the path I need to take. So, thanks to all three of you!
 
psionandy said:
Rooting your phone, has NO connection to any carrier (sim) locks that may be on the device... if your phone will work with the sim before its rooted, it will work afterwards.. if it won't work with that sim card before, it still won't work after.

However.. while rooting your device will allow you to do some things that you wouldn't be able to do on an unrooted device, it will also allow you to do stupid things that may brick it, or stop things working... and (depending on the device) there may not be a way to go back (a standard reset won't help here).

If you do root it (and i'm not telling you not to ) you need to be very careful and do plenty of reading.....
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Just an add-on to this post.

Root allows multiple 3rd party sim unlocking devices to sim unlock most phones usually that require carrier unlock. Sorta like how metropcs requires 3months to sim unlock.

Just a F.Y.I incase you ever wanted to make a small business out of it at home.
 
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