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Giving up on my S60

slimbobaggins

slimbobaggins

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About a month ago the GPS on my S60 all but stopped working. Never had an issue with it until then, and I didn't change anything that would have called this. But in the last month, my phone is only getting a GPS signal about 10% of the time. I've been limping along like that, as I'm normally just using it for traffic updates, so it hasn't been a big deal... that said, it left me stranded with my family in a not very nice part of town the other day. So that's the final straw. I ordered a different phone to replace this yesterday.

So in my approximate year and a half of usage, here's my feelings towards the phone.
Pros:
-Thermal Camera, if you have a legit need for one. I work in electronics, so I do, and I will be keeping the phone in my tool box for the thermal camera
-Battery life- it's been terrific for me
-Good bright light pictures from the photo camera- the pictures in bright daylight have been terrific
-Decently fast operation... no real issues with it being slow or laggy, internal storage is sufficient
-Good cell reception and call quality- no complaints there
-Physically tough- will take a beating being dropped, etc, with no issues whatsoever. I love it.

Cons:
-Waterproofing- I've seen so many reports of water ingress, I have 0% confidence in this phone's waterproofing, which is sad considering the hype around it
-GPS- just quit working for me, inexplicably
-Wifi reception- has been pretty poor, phone gets warm, and eats battery, during wifi usage, which indicates poor antenna design
-First OTA update broke photo camera low light functionality. Camera was pretty darn good up until that point, and has never recovered with subsequent updates
-Cheap exterior- screen over microphone fell off, plastic cover over charge port fell off
-Buggy software- As documented on this forum, my phone has suffered from wifi locks and wakelocks that I have learned to mitigate, but should have never happened in the first place

Overall, my experience with this phone as been good, but I also didn't pay for the phone, Bullitt Group gave me the phone for free in their sweepstakes early on. I think had I paid the $600 USD asking price, I would have been upset with the overall experience because of the numerous bugs.
 
dontpanicbobby said:
Good real life user review slmbobaggins! At any point did you try a factory-reset and reloading only your most essential software?
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I did several times early on. Never helped with the wifi/ wakelocks, nor the camera quality.

To address the wifi/ wakelocks, I just eventually learned to avoid certain apps, that I knew were going to inevitably cause an issue on the phone. Wakelocks never had any rhyme or reason to them, and when they would happen, the only solution would be to put the phone in battery save mode, and then reboot it. Ironically enough, the phone just had a massive wakelock two days ago, as if to bid me farewell.
 
I never understood the whole wavelock thing. Researched it but I couldn't gronk it. So are you looking for another milspec phone or are you going to try cases with your next one? Cases have gotten slimmer and tougher.
 
I replaced my S60 with a Moto G 4 Plus, and a cheap $6 case, and have been very happy. I still have the S60 for the thermal camera, but the 4 Plus has superior hardware, and all the apps I couldn't run on my S60 because I knew they would cause wifi or wake locks, I now run with no issues on my 4 Plus.

I will say that I miss the battery life of my S60, it has a much larger battery than the 4 Plus. That said, I went to use the S60 thermal camera yesterday (its been sitting on the shelf in airplane mode), and I realized it had for some reason wake locked itself 4 days ago and burned off nearly the entire battery. So I made the right decision, making the switch.
 
LMAO. And now I'm back to the S60. MG4+ was fine for a while, and then as the weather turned cold, the screen became absolutely horrible with ghost touches.

I have to RMA the phone back to Lenovo/ Motorola. So for the time being, I'm relying on the S60 again. Just checked, and nothing has changed, GPS not working properly.

The S60 screen seems tiny and dim now, in comparison to the MG4+. The MG4+ camera also takes amazing quality shots.

I think once I get my replacement phone, I'm going to finally try rooting my S60 and see if there's any improvements to be achieved with that.
 
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