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Goverment shutdowns in the US

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With Trump you either love him or hate him, he's got good ideas that need to be addressed but he's also a moron as a person.
Both democrats and Republicans can't stand him because he's doing things neither party would ever do.
 
i am guessing... around 80% of citizens will not feel the affect directly immediately.
these are the people that will feel it right away:
gov employees that are off
people that are helped by gov services
people that go to gov facilities to the public
people that sell to gov entities

but as time goes on... more and more will feel it.
indirect affects will start to develop the longer this goes on.

i do not want to spend my tax on a stupid wall!!!!
it is a lie, that the new trade agreement with Mexico will pay for the wall.
giving away a large chunk of tax to the rich
then spend another chuck on a damn useless wall
but cant spend tax on healthcare for all and education
 
of course the shutdown can not last for ever! that would be end of USA.
eventually something has to happen. then it will reopen.

if it goes to long.. drumphf will get screwed by his own party.
 
Yeah.
Border barriers haven't worked anywhere.

Bullshit.. it's keeping the Netherlands and Poland from being overrun with ISIS, posing as refugees.. the few safe places left in Europe have strict border security with fences & guns, keeping them barbarians out. Also helps keep the normal criminals out/in..
 
the few safe places left in Europe.

Hey... I was keeping out of your discussion on US internal politics... BUT

With the Greatest of respect if you start talking Bollocks about a continent you know sweet FA about someone is gonna call you on it*


*and with the greatest of respect, if you get offended that someone points out the fact you are talking a pile of uninformed bollocks you probably shouldn't call someone else's opinion Bullshit.
 
Yeah, I'm afraid that whoever told you that stuff about European borders or "few safe places" has never been to Europe, and is making stuff up in order to sell an agenda.
 
Yeah, I'm afraid that whoever told you that stuff about European borders or 'few safe places' has never been to Europe, and is making stuff up in order to sell an agenda.

Oh.. you mean BBC? ;) European crime rate has increased exponentially since the mass 'migration'..
 
Hey... I was keeping out of your discussion on US internal politics... BUT

With the Greatest of respect if you start talking Bollocks about a continent you know sweet FA about someone is gonna call you on it*


*and with the greatest of respect, if you get offended that someone points out the fact you are talking a pile of uninformed bollocks you probably shouldn't call someone else's opinion Bullshit.

I'm not offended but I'll try to better curb my rhetoric or comments since you guys are setting better examples than I
 
Oh.. you mean BBC? ;) European crime rate has increased exponentially since the mass 'migration'..

$10 to a charity of your choice.. via paypal... if you can come up with a BBC news report that says there are few safe places in Europe...*


*in the context of which you used the phrase.
 
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$10 to a charity of your choice.. via paypal... if you can come up with a BBC news report that says there are few safe places in Europe...*

'safer places' is the inclination I got from a report that Poland is refusing to allow refugees from middle East while near everywhere else in Europe became their new crime and rape capitals.. I'll try to find that report I mentioned. What about the Islamic 'No Go' zones places report? No offense to anyone specific but it's kinda hard to sometimes take perspectives into consideration if you're living a protected life in a tall glass building somewhere.. Live in the hood, ghetto, whatever for some time and I guarantee you will have a different perspective of what's considered 'dangerous'.. I hear sheriffs say they don't exist in n their towns/cities but I've seen them with my own eyes.. just because authorities say it's not happening doesn't mean they're right or telling the truth. They even tell you they can't lie 'because they are Law Enforcement'.. I've lived the life and I believe you're being lied to or you're truly unaware of the dark side of the world in your backyard. A mentality of 'that stuff only happens on TV..' will be a quick upset or early end. Looking the other way or refusing to acknowledge the problem doesn't change the fact it still exists. Just food for thought..
 
'safer places' is the inclination I got from a report that Poland is refusing to allow refugees from middle East while near everywhere else in Europe became their new crime and rape capitals.. I'll try to find that report I mentioned. What about the Islamic 'No Go' zones places report? No offense to anyone specific but it's kinda hard to sometimes take perspectives into consideration if you're living a protected life in a tall glass building somewhere.. Live in the hood, ghetto, whatever for some time and I guarantee you will have a different perspective of what's considered 'dangerous'.. I hear sheriffs say they don't exist in n their towns/cities but I've seen them with my own eyes.. just because authorities say it's not happening doesn't mean they're right or telling the truth. They even tell you they can't lie 'because they are Law Enforcement'.. I've lived the life and I believe you're being lied to or you're truly unaware of the dark side of the world in your backyard. A mentality of 'that stuff only happens on TV..' will be a quick upset or early end. Looking the other way or refusing to acknowledge the problem doesn't change the fact it still exists. Just food for thought..

Repeat this a little louder for those whom didn't hear for the ones in the back.
 
My bunion still hurt and my cornflakes is still too crunchy, I guess I let them Basque in the lactose-free milk so I can digest it later.
 
the few safe places left in Europe have strict border security with fences & guns, ..

'safer places' is the inclination I got from a report that Poland is refusing to allow refugees from middle East while near everywhere else in Europe became their new crime and rape capitals.. I'll try to find that report I mentioned. What about the Islamic 'No Go' zones places report? No offense to anyone specific but it's kinda hard to sometimes take perspectives into consideration if you're living a protected life in a tall glass building somewhere.. Live in the hood, ghetto, whatever for some time and I guarantee you will have a different perspective of what's considered 'dangerous'.. I hear sheriffs say they don't exist in n their towns/cities but I've seen them with my own eyes.. just because authorities say it's not happening doesn't mean they're right or telling the truth. They even tell you they can't lie 'because they are Law Enforcement'.. I've lived the life and I believe you're being lied to or you're truly unaware of the dark side of the world in your backyard. A mentality of 'that stuff only happens on TV..' will be a quick upset or early end. Looking the other way or refusing to acknowledge the problem doesn't change the fact it still exists. Just food for thought..


Safer places is a different phrase., with a different meaning..

'safer places' is the inclination I got from a report that Poland is refusing to allow refugees from middle East while near everywhere else in Europe became their new crime and rape capitals.. I'll try to find that report I mentioned.

That isn't true either... I'm not saying that crime and rape doesn't exist in Europe.. but saying near everywhere in Europe is a crime and rape capital is the rantings of someone who has no idea what they are talking about...



'No offense to anyone specific but it's kinda hard to sometimes take perspectives into consideration if you're living a protected life in a tall glass building somewhere.. Live in the hood, ghetto, whatever for some time and I guarantee you will have a different perspective of what's considered 'dangerous'..

I have no idea who you are talking about here... I definately don't fit that description... Pretty sure @Hadron doesn't either. @dontpanicbobby and @dan330 doesn't either. @Dannydet and @mikedt probably would have mentioned it at some point if they did as well.....

Ohhhhhh... sorry you meant mr trump.... ?????

Again... if you want to go back to talking about US Internal politics and the effect on the ground of governmental shutdowns.. Its harder for me to argue.. because i don't want to look like an uniformed moron....

BUT if your don't know what you're talking about.. based only on an
'the inclination I got from a report

Then you're probably gonna want to have that argument in your local bar.. or in front of a TV, where people won't point out that you know nothing about what you're speaking about.
 
Then you're probably gonna want to have that argument in your local bar.. or in front of a TV, where people won't point out that you know nothing about what you're speaking about.

Once again.. you just look the other way and deny it's existence. Ok, I'm done here. Y'all have a nice day. :)
 
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