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How to disable warning about overloading system?

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Sunny Rio

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I keep getting a warning about "some apps or processes are overloading the system (CPU) and need to be closed".

No they don't. I want them to run, I put them there. How do I stop my phone moaning that I'm making full use of the CPU? Please leave me alone! I don't want treated like a child! Please somebody tell me how to turn this warning off!

Other apps that create a notification that disturbs me, I can click notification settings and disable it, but I can't stop the bloody OS from complaining!
 
The apps in question are putting an undo amount of useage on the system.

This will result in less than satisfactory results in battery life, along with slowing the device down.

Just because you put them there, and desire them to run, does not mean that your device is capable of making the best of this situation.

You are not going to win this arguement with your device.
The notifications of many system apps cannot be turned off.

There is a reason for this.

One thing you might try is to turn off any kind of 'smart control' type thing that the device may have that can make apps shut down if they continuously run.

Battery Optimization, and other things of this sort.

That may or may not stop the notifications.
 
The program I'm referring to is set to only run when on mains power, so battery is nothing to do with it.

I know it could slow it down, but I limited it to 1 less core than all of them, so I'm happy with that. I only need 1 core free to use it as a telephone. I seem to have no control over my own device!

I have gone into "device care", and switched off "auto optimisation". Battery power modes seems to only have "maximum power saving", "medium power saving", and "optimised" (the one I chose), although the program in question only runs on mains power, so this should be irrelevant.
 
Sunny Rio said:
I keep getting a warning about "some apps or processes are overloading the system (CPU) and need to be closed".

No they don't. I want them to run, I put them there. How do I stop my phone moaning that I'm making full use of the CPU? Please leave me alone! I don't want treated like a child! Please somebody tell me how to turn this warning off!

Other apps that create a notification that disturbs me, I can click notification settings and disable it, but I can't stop the bloody OS from complaining!
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That's something I've never heard of or seen before. What phone or tablet have you actually got there, and what app is it?

The only thing I've seen that might be similar, is "Fast battery drain detected." on Samsung phones. Which is something I think only Samsung phones and tablets might do, when it thinks there's a rogue app. I never saw messages of this type on the Huawei and Oppo phones I've had.
 
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Samsung Galaxy A10, Android 9, running Boinc projects. They're meant to max out the CPU, they're doing science. It's normally plugged into the mains, the Boinc programs pause when it's on battery, so not battery drain.

It seems to be doing it less frequently, maybe it's only going to warn me a few times for each program and assume by me pressing cancel that I'm authorising it.
 
Whoever designed that 'idiot proofing' must have missed out on the 'unused RAM is wasted RAM' and the point of Android caching of apps. Sounds like a software trying to kill tasks. Unless Android has fundamentally changed since 2012, Android has been perfectly capable of managing itself without task killers for some time now.

As for ditching the notification, you can either 'minimize' it so it won't show a persistant icon or lockscreen notification, or use a third-party 'notification hider' app, and disable notifications for the hider app so it in essence deletes any annoying notifications like that. I used to get rid of the '[My Files] Your device is running DANGEROUSLY LOW on space' warning on Samsung tablets that way.
 
It's warning me of high CPU usage, not high RAM usage. Which would be reasonable if it was running on battery, which it isn't.

Not sure what you mean by minimize it, it's coming up as a notification which appears on the drag from the top menu, like a text message does. What annoys me is it plays the notification sound, like a text message does.

I might try a 3rd party hider if it does it again, it seems to have given up, maybe it learns from me ignoring it?

"Dangerously low" ROFL! Do phones explode if they run out of disk space?
 
It did it again, time to get nasty, I've done this over USB:

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.samsung.android.lool
 
Go to settings-->Apps-->select the app (probably Device Care if it's a Samsung phone), then select 'notifications' (it normally shows notifications--allowed) and then there's going to be multiple categories so go through each one if there are more than one, tap 'minimize notifications' and 'hide on lock screen' and you won't see the notification or be alerted about it. The notification will still display when you show the notification shade by swiping down from the top but you won't see the persistent icon anymore, or the lockscreen notification card, or hear the alert sound for it.

"Minimizing" notifications has been a thing since Android 8.0, Oreo. It's the only way to hide notifications that 'can't be turned off'

The Galaxy Tab A 8.0 (2015) I got at home does the 'dangerously low on space' warning. It comes from My Files, a system app. When you are about 95% of storage used up, (as in only 5% of free space left) it shows a persistent notification saying 'You device is running dangerously low on space' and wants to recommend uninstalling or deleting content.

I remember other warnings in that threatening tone; Windows XP used to show a notification saying 'Your system is running DANGEROUSLY LOW on resources' whenever the RAM was being used up, and the page file was filling up. Of course, it also had the funny warning "Error: The Operation completed Successfully" as well so who cares what Windows complains about?
 
It wouldn't let me stop the notifications, so I've disabled it using a USB command line connection from my PC, ha! Samsung thinks they know better. No, it's MY phone.

Funnily enough I just used up all the RAM on an old PC here running Windows 11. It only has 8GB RAM (the most the MB will take). One program wanted 8GB and was given it! The stupid OS slowed to a complete halt (even with an SSD) and I had to switch it off. You'd think MS would have sorted memory management by now.
 
You can blame the legacy bits of Windows 11 (a carryover from 10 and earlier) for the bad memory management. That said, I've ground Linux to a halt a few times by maxing out both RAM as well as the swap partition forcing a restart, which is worse since Linux does NOT like an improper shutdown and goes to initramfs and it's harder than hades to get back to a usable desktop once that happens, especially if you're new to it.
 
You'd think by version 11 they could have fixed the memory management. They send a bloody update twice a week, what on earth are they fixing?

If you deliberately load a few RAM hungry programs in Linux, what happens?

If Linux gets so messed up by improper (ROFL, was someone naked?) shutdown, does it never crash or something? And does everyone have a UPS? And no hardware ever fails?

Why can't it provide an easier way to go back to normal mode?

I assume initramfs means safe mode? I thought Linux had caught up with the times and was trying to be user friendly? Well they need to use English terms, not codes.

Mind you, with terms like fsck, I wonder if they do it on purpose. Oooh look I almost wrote a swearword into the command line!
 
Linux is known to freeze requiring a full shutdown (yoink the plug out the wall, or hold power until it turns off) in my use cases (I game on it via Proton, and run a lot of RAM hungry apps, and once the swap partition is full, swap being what Linux calls Virtual Memory it just locks up) that can cause a lot of troubles. Like Windows, Linux can't empty its Swap partition very well and eventually hard-freezes. If you have enough RAM, however, you can disable swap and that never happens. On my Linux gaming rig, I have 32GB of DDR4 RAM, so it never has that issue. On this laptop, however, I run only 3GB RAM and even with a super-old distro, it fills up, ultimately maxes out the swap partition, and eventually freezes.

Yes, unlike what their fans want you to believe, Linux CAN and DOES crash. Macs Crash too. They crash different but they crash too. Linux even has similar dialog boxes when say a browser gives up. "We're sorry, but firefox has crashed'. It also has 'kernel panics' which are the Linux equivalent to a 'Blue Screen of Death'.


Initramfs is a console only safe mode, a lot like DOS. It comes up if/when the root filesystem, which is where Linux stores its desktop and your apps and so on, is not 'clean' aka an improper shutdown. For some asinine reason, turning the power off causes a ton of corruption to Linux requiring a full 'fsck' or File System Check via the console, aka initramfs. It's not fun to do. A lot of time I get stuck in that mode and it takes hours to get out.

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Personally, I love Linux, and I love a challenge. My ultimate goal is being able to find a way to force it to boot normally, whether the root filesystem is 'clean' or not.
 
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There's no reason for it to corrupt data like that, does it have a similar setting to Windows to stop it leaving write-behind cache in RAM that needs to be on the disk in case of an unexpected power off?

Why would you pull the plug out of the wall? Don't you have switches on your sockets?

Kernel panic is a funny term. As is fsck, which basically happens when your file systems is fscked! Which just doesn't happen on Windows. The earlier Windows versions used to do a quick scan of the disk if you powered it off wrong, but they virtually never found a problem, so I usually skipped it on slow machines if I caught it in time.

Macs used to (and maybe still do) get very angry with the user and try to educate them not to power it off without using the shutdown command. I'm sorry, but a machine telling me what I should not have done is cause for it to be defenestrated.

So doesn't Linux do this automatically and it's just a matter of waiting until the scan finishes?

Just use Windows, if you need to change something, use a menu.
 
On many modern desktop computers these days, the power button is a 'soft power' button meaning all it does is send a command to whatever OS you run to either do a sleep or shutdown command. They don't turn the system off like in the 80s when it literally cut power to the PSU.

So if it hard freezes bad enough, holding it down for any length of time won't do anything, forcing the user to yank the plug and force the system off. It's worse for many newer laptops since you can't pull the battery, meaning if the lockup is that bad, you are waiting a few hours for the internal battery to fully run out and power the system off.

Linux in my experience has NEVER done an auto file system check if the corruption was bad enough. It does run one every few mount cycles to verify it's 'clean' and then carries on booting but if there's some problem the auto fsck can't solve it will boot into initramfs and require user input with admin level access. The actual error reads "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY RUN fsck MANUALLY"

Linux's initramfs is a manual fix mode requiring user input, while Windows, at least, can do an 'automatic repair' and not require any input at all.

IF you want to see some hilarious linux chaos, look at Linus Tech Tips' 'linux challenge'. He tried to install steam and ended up deleting his entire D.E. instead.

Linux/UNIX commands are almost always acronyms. GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program, FSCK = File System ChecK, and so on. Any similarity with curse words is merely a coincidence.
 
All systems have a power button like that now (for the last 25 years). You simply hold it in for 4 seconds and the motherboard/BIOS overrides any OS crash and cuts the power. This never fails.

But I was actually referring to why you don't have a switch on your mains plug on the wall, as you said "pull the plug".

Windows doesn't tend to get corrupted enough to need a manual er.... typing carefully.... fsck, but when it does, you get a menu offering all sorts, one of which is a command prompt.

How the hell can you delete a whole.... (whispers: what's a DE?) while trying to install a program?

The acronyms are too short. Chkdsk in windows can be guessed more easily than fsck. I have no idea what grep stands for, although everyone seems to use it for some kind of search.
 
DE = Desktop Environment. What Linux calls a GUI. You can watch the video yourself. He attempts to install steam via the app store (Pop Store on the POP! OS variant of Linux) and it fails, so he attempts to use the command line, and whatever command he uses to install Steam (Apt get install Steam) lists the packages it needs, and some that get removed. one or more of the ones that get removed are vital packages, such as Pop Desktop, Xorg (the window manager), and others. It warns him he's about to do something wrong (you are about to do something harmful to the system, type 'yes do as I say' to confirm) and he does that, and he loses his entire desktop.


As for grep, it is indeed an acronym for "Global regular expression print"
 
Why would steam request he removes packages?

Why would Linux even let you remove that? In Windows there is no option to even uninstall Edge (browser), nevermind a vital system thing.

WTF is "Global regular expression print"? I thought it was some kind of search utility?
 
Nope, the command for search in Linux is 'whereis' as in:

whereis grep

whereis gimp

whereis [any file/document/etc here]

that command will print the location. It's no spotlight seach, but it does the job, however basically. Here's an example on my machine:

$>whereis images.jpg
/home/Nick/pictures/images.jpg

As for what caused Pop!OS to remove vital system files when attempting to install Steam, well, that's a question you should ask Framework Devs, who made the Linux derivative. But it's also why one should read what's on the screen. When something says 'you are about to do something potentially harmful, type 'yes do as I say' to continue' well, maybe it means you might break something.

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https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/...ll-no-longer-let-you-break-everything/page=4/
 
No, I was definitely thinking of grep:
"grep is a command-line utility for searching plain-text data sets for lines that match a regular expression."

Try formatting C: in windows and see if it lets you.
 
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