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Is Crime in the US Up...or Down?

rootabaga

Android Expert
This is a "Debunker" video report, so you'll have to click the link to watch it.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/debu...lity-of-violent-crime-in-america-746016835580

That said, I'll save you the suspense: crime generally is down, as are murders (at least outside of a handful of cities, notably Baltimore). Indeed, the murder rate in 2014 was at its lowest since the 50s. The thrust of the article is to bash Trump for talking tough about crime, but there's definitely a double-standard at play here.

If crime is really down, so that the media is challenging Trump on his position, then why does the media (and our politicians) so often beating the drum of "gun" violence? I've always been puzzled why the focus is on the implement rather than the user of that implement.

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Doubtless there are things we need to work on, like keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, but given that (1) crime is down, (2) murders are down and (3) criminals generally don't obey the law anyway, what's the point of focusing on "gun" violence and more gun laws?
 
here are my thoughts on your question....

1. it is hard for someone to accidently ... beat someone... strangle someone... stab someone.
we hear about accidently shooting someone... a lot.

2. criminals are what they are.. but if there are less guns around.. then less for the criminals to use.

3. crimes of passion... using a gun .. to kill someone, does not take much.
even angry, it would take a lot to.. beat, strangle, or stab someone.
many angry person who could pull a trigger in the heat of anger.. they could not do it with a bat, knife, or rope.


crime in general is down... but the global Media today.. makes sure we hear about them all!
 
chicago, the land of "No Guns Allowed" has experienced a murder rate with guns that is upwards by about double...
http://heyjackass.com/

Restricting guns from the law abiding citizen has proven to have zero effect on their availability to criminals. They don't care about laws in the 1st place, and now that the average citizen no longer can own a gun, the home invasions are rampant in scale. the worst thing they will face up with is a butcher knife or ball bat, and both of those come up short in a gun fight.

here in Oklahoma, our sheriffs have declared "open range" on criminals, and are actively encouraging all citizens to get a gun and carry it openly.... or if you would rather, get a CCW permit and carry it hidden. Funny thing about that...... the crime rate in Oklahoma is dropping....

Store clerks are now blowing away potential robbers who threaten them with a gun... Not all of course, but some.
Just this week, a robber came up and stuck a pistol in the face of a store clerk and demanded all the money....
The store clerk was a retired "30 year marine": he just reached up, grabbed the weapon and pointed it at the stupid robber, and held him with his arms locked behind his neck until the 911 call button he had stepped on was answered....

Another incident that tickled me: same scenario, only this time the clerk was about 91 years old..... he said "okay, hold your horses, and reached down into the cash register for the money. Came out with an automatic and killed 3 robbers.
 
I can see both side of this argument...
I don't own any guns... but I do agree that if a person wants, they should be able to own and protect their home and life and loved ones... with a gun.

2nd amendment .. gives everyone the right to own arms. I don't want to take that away.
but it was for "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I don't think it should be... open carry!
it should be locked down... in a secure place.
 
I don't think it should be... open carry!
it should be locked down... in a secure place.


and that sir, makes it totally a useless piece of junk!!!

"Excuse me Mr. Robber, while I go to the vault and get my gun"

uh huh, yeah, right. You miss the whole point of being able to protect yourself.

You have just about 2 seconds to get into action.... longer than that, and you are dead if that is their intent.
 
under pillows.. mattress.. car seats... etc...
have shown in the news.. as not so safe a place.
 
the only safe place is on your body.....
or, locked in a gun safe if you aren't in immediate control of it.
 
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