Due to my 10+ years of actual experience in all aspects I momentarily(equates to being unlocked while phone is on turn it off in anyway phone will hard brick.Kyocera is smart as they have an extra layer of secruity embedded within the fw itself and kicks in if you manage to unlock as of right only they can do forementioned not any end users inlcuding myself) did it for the Rise.Dont try anything yourself as with a locked loader any mistakes even minor will hard brick your phone