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Marijuana on the cusp of legalization federally
- Thread starter Thatdad
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dibblebill
Android Expert
Which is funny, I just got an e-mail from "Petition the White House" or "We the People" or whatever it is saying the Federal Government would not legalize it.
Thatdad
Android Expert
Yeah I get those too. Most of the time it's friends of mine advertising their petitions to the white house.
dibblebill
Android Expert
Well, I signed one a while back demanding they recognize and acknowledge Colorado's laws. The White House response was that they would not, and that they'd continue prosecuting any states who legalized it.
SiempreTuna
Android Expert
It'll never happen - the drug dealers have an awesome lobbying operation :vroam:
They're not entirely dumb: they saw what happened when prohibition was repealed
See what I mean
For "We the People" read "We the drug dealers" - it's only them and law enforcement agencies benefit from illegal drugs and most law enforcement agencies have finally figured out that the extra few bucks the govt gives them to fight narcotics doesn't come anywhere close to what they need to spend .. a further indication of the strength of the drug dealer lobby
pbf98
Android Expert
Did you know that the US actually had a federal medical Marijuana program that had 34 participants at its peak? In 1992 George Bush shut the program down, but allowed the surviving members of the program to continue receiving the medical marijuana?
These members of this program are federally protected from laws against possessing marijuana. There is one man still in the program that receives 300 prerolled joints each month from the federal program.
So there is federal protection for these individuals, but they won't recognize the fact that maybe this drug isn't as bad as some say it is?
These members of this program are federally protected from laws against possessing marijuana. There is one man still in the program that receives 300 prerolled joints each month from the federal program.
So there is federal protection for these individuals, but they won't recognize the fact that maybe this drug isn't as bad as some say it is?
sfbloodbrother
Extreme Android User
dibblebill
Android Expert
The Federal Administration's interest is in preserving the drug war, nothing else. Nevermind all the research that has shown how damaging and useless prohibition of ANY drug is, much less the drug war.
I do recommend watching "Breaking the Taboo", a documentary that came out a year or so ago
I do recommend watching "Breaking the Taboo", a documentary that came out a year or so ago
SiempreTuna
Android Expert
Hey! It's a gateway drug: everyone who ever took heroin first smoked weed
Hang on .. they also drank milk ..
MILK is the gateway drug!
Ban milk!
dibblebill
Android Expert
Hey! It's a gateway drug: everyone who ever took heroin first smoked weed
Hang on .. they also drank milk ..
MILK is the gateway drug!
Ban milk!
Driving a car is the gateway drug to driveby's.
Thatdad
Android Expert
And speeding tickets!
Thatdad
Android Expert
Hey! It's a gateway drug: everyone who ever took heroin first smoked weed
Hang on .. they also drank milk ..
MILK is the gateway drug!
Ban milk!
Nahhhh man regulate it.
dibblebill
Android Expert
Nahhhh man regulate it.
They already do!
Several raw milk sources have been raided or confiscated lately.
dibblebill
Android Expert
I maintain that the war on drugs is an overfunded continuing failure that only the drug lords benefit from... They must have good lobbyists to keep their products illegal.
Gmash
Extreme Android User
I still don't see it being legalized nationally anytime soon. This just means the Obama administration has chosen to look the other way and not interfere in the states that have legalized it. (even though federal law technically supersedes state law) That doesn't mean a different administration won't choose to handle things differently. Likely it will continue on a state by state basis until we reach a tipping point, but we are nowhere near that point yet.
Thatdad
Android Expert
How many states do you think it will take?
dibblebill
Android Expert
All fifty.
There are places where you really do not want it around, like big cities states. If someone dies in massive car accident because DUI of pot, state will get blamed for making it legal. If next maniac who is going to open shooting in publich place is going to be high, who will get blamed again?
Pot is not worse than alcohol for sake. , The reason why they want it legal is to collect some taxes.
I have a few friends who are over 25 and smoke it, but I know, if they pass it, noone us going to regulate anything and there are going to be stoned 14 year olds everywhere.
Pot is not worse than alcohol for sake. , The reason why they want it legal is to collect some taxes.
I have a few friends who are over 25 and smoke it, but I know, if they pass it, noone us going to regulate anything and there are going to be stoned 14 year olds everywhere.
BRAINZ2013
Extreme Android User
Its not the part of legalization . If they legalized it in every state half of the prison system will need to clear out their cells. And once it is legalized the court will lose out on extended payments that help them out. And now falls on who will take the responsibility to sell this product and what kind of warranty will you give this product and how will it be sold. Remember people have seen and herd that this is a big item and everyone will want to get in on selling it. They just fall short as where to start .
Thatdad
Android Expert
There is actually (not sure if it's law or whatever) but if a previous law is legalized after imprisonment you still have to serve your time.
dibblebill
Android Expert
I see a lot of excuses and very few well-founded counter-arguments to the end of prohibition. We are looking at this the wrong way. We aren't legalizing something, we're removing prohibition.This ALREADY happens in the US regardless. It has traditionally fallen to alcohol, movies (The Matrix got blamed a lot), music (I love how 'violent' Alice Cooper is, with his anti-drug/anti-violence message, and that Marilyn Manson's a frequent scapegoat), video games (doom and Quake and Postal 2, anybody? Jack Thomson?), and many other things. This is hardly a valid argument for continued prohibition, which creates massive police and gang violence across the world.
I don't quite understand what you're saying here, but yes, tax it.
I don't see this as the case in places where they DO sell pot (Amsterdam), I'd like to see your evidence. The laws already don't prevent people from smoking, they only offer punishment.
I don't do drugs myself, and never would, but I am strongly for the end of the Drug War and prohibition. And all research points and supports this, as well, that I've seen released by independent groups in the last few years.
Incorrect. Unless the law gives specific amnesty like Washington's state law, they will remain in prison. But the prisons will not be so overfilled in the future by people who have committed no immoral or wrong act (by their own definition), which is as it should be.
Wal-Mart? Target? Kroger? Places that already sell alcohol/tobacco? I'm not a big proponent of age-based discrimination and such, as those laws are, again, largely ineffective, but that's a massive digression. Why not just have a minimum age law and purchasing limits like booze already does, or require a license to sell it? Quite simple. Sell the licenses and you have a bit of revenue.
Gmash
Extreme Android User
If 14 year olds want to get stoned they can do it now. When I was in high school at least, it was easier to buy weed than it was to find somebody 21 to buy beer for me. Hell, I could usually get it right at school.