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Apps need help creating 'my first app'

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gnojham

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hey all
i have spent numerous hours trying to just make 'my first app' work on my phone
i have tried with eclipse
i have tried with the SDK adt bundle thing
i have the updated java

problem is every tutorial i have seen has incorrect instructions as far as i can tell.
plus, they seem to be written for people who already know how to create apps.

my goal again, is just to be able to get that 'my first app' thing to work on either my phone or my computer.
im looking for somebody to hold my hand and walk me through it. sounds worse than it is.
i tried the tutorials above, but when it gets to the part about downloading the SDK, thats where i get lost, because the link is for the SDK ADT bundle, which includes eclipse apparently (which i had already tried and uninstalled because im trying to start fresh and dont know wtf im doing) so the instructions are no good because the next step is to download eclipse.

so, if somebody that knows what their doing wants to try and walk me through it, i would appreciate it.

like i said, i tried two different tutorials. the unlock one and the getting started on the android developers page. i get to the point where it says theres no device to use and if i try to add an adv, the pop up doesnt let me.

so frustrating

if somebody wants to tell me step 1. im all ears.
assume the only thing i have installed is java
no eclipse, no sdk, no bundle, nothing

thanks for any help
 
im getting to the part where i want to run it, but it says theres no device
i have my phone plugged in, but it isnt doing anything, and it wont let me create a virtual device
 
jonbonazza said:
What kind of programming experience do you already have?
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i can do some work with php, mysql. but i dont have any of it memorized. basically i can figure out how to find a snippet of code i need and then copy and paste it where i need it.
so, more than a random person off the street, but not much i guess.

btw, omg thanks for replying. im still going crazy
 
some questions:
i download the android sdk which has the adt bundle which includes some form of eclipse. has anybody had experience with this bundle working or is there a known problem?

also, so lets say i download it. its zipped. when i unzip it, does it matter at all where i unzip it to?
these may sound like stupid questions, but i dont want to take anything for granted.
 
btw, im not trying to make some dazzling $100000 app
im just trying to figure out how to make the example 'hello world' app
please dont think im expecting to start churning out angry birds in a couple days
 
Before you even look at Android development, I recommend taking a step back and learning to program. What language you choose is mostly irrelevant, as conceptionally, all languages are the same. I do recommend you start with some sort of OOP oriented language though and most people tend to start with java, since that is essentially what Android development uses. After you are comfortable PROGRAMMING in java, not just copying and pasting someone else's code (anyone can do that and it isn't actually teaching you anything), only then should you move on to Android development. Android uses a lot of advanced programming paradigms and concepts that aren't really something you should dive head first into. Although possible, it will end up taking you much longer than if you just work from the ground up.
 
jonbonazza said:
Before you even look at Android development, I recommend taking a step back and learning to program. What language you choose is mostly irrelevant, as conceptionally, all languages are the same. I do recommend you start with some sort of OOP oriented language though and most people tend to start with java, since that is essentially what Android development uses. After you are comfortable PROGRAMMING in java, not just copying and pasting someone else's code (anyone can do that and it isn't actually teaching you anything), only then should you move on to Android development. Android uses a lot of advanced programming paradigms and concepts that aren't really something you should dive head first into. Although possible, it will end up taking you much longer than if you just work from the ground up.
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thanks
i appreciate the thought and understand it completely
im not jumping in to this expecting to start churning out quality apps or apps even, and thats not even my goal.
i have a webpage i created that i want an app for. its a pretty simple page, just some text and database. i want to just figure out this hello world thing and start to figure out how to make the app for myself. once i understand what eclipse versions and whatnot i need, im sure i will be able to create the app, and once thats done, i will go back to what i was doing before (learning php and pyhthon).


so, if youre interested in helping me, please do. i would really appreciate it.
first thing i want to know is what eclipse should i use? i see eclipse mobile, classic, ee, etc. i need to know im starting out correctly so if i see errors later, i know they arent because im using the wrong software or whatever.

the andorid developer pages dont seem to be up to date as far as instrucitons go.

thanks again
 
are there any known compatibility issues with firewalls? comodo perhaps?
i allow access whenever it requests, but trying to eliminate variables here to solve my problem
found a video tutorial (a good one i think) and followed it along. got to the part again about opening the virtual device manager and again, the manager wouldnt open.
 
You shouldn't need to do anything with your firewall as the AVD is local and doesn't necessarily need to connect to the internet. It's hard to tell what's wrong without seeing exactly what you are doing.
 
jonbonazza said:
You shouldn't need to do anything with your firewall as the AVD is local and doesn't necessarily need to connect to the internet. It's hard to tell what's wrong without seeing exactly what you are doing.
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i asked because during installs i would get warnings from comodo

i have actually managed to get the emulator running after obviously many tries.
not sure exactly what the problem was, but starting all over and unzipping files to my desktop ended up working
then i moved the folders to a new location and pointed eclipse preferences to the new location of the sdk files and it still works.

emulator is slow however.
i bumped the ram to 800 and if i set it any higher, i get an error when trying to start it
internal storage i set to 500MiB
sd card to 1 GiB

any suggestions to help speed this thing up?
 
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