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Nexus 7 vs Ipad 3 Video

if you're going to do those kind of animations and effect you're videos wont be popular.

we are critics! bahaha
 
The blatant bias by the reviewer killed it right from the start for me.

That and the fact that they are comparing two dissimilar items made it pretty obvious where things were going.

So yay for our team and all, but not very useful or credible.
 
stridermt2k said:
The blatant bias by the reviewer killed it right from the start for me.

That and the fact that they are comparing two dissimilar items made it pretty obvious where things were going.

So yay for our team and all, but not very useful or credible.
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hey mate I was wondering why you said my video is biased? every time before i release a video, i post everything on the Forums to make sure all my information is as accurate as possible, Do you think that I have left some advantages out from the Ipad 3, If so what are they? And ill be sure to include them in my next video. Thanks
 
cyprusx said:
hey mate I was wondering why you said my video is biased? every time before i release a video, i post everything on the Forums to make sure all my information is as accurate as possible, Do you think that I have left some advantages out from the Ipad 3, If so what are they? And ill be sure to include them in my next video. Thanks
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That wasn't directed at me, however:

It's a question of emphasis. The iPad has over twice the screen area of the Nexus and a much better quality screen, yet you zipped through that almost as if it was a footnote. Treating attributes of differing importance/significance as having equal weight on long lists like this isn't worth much, especially when it's inconsistent and incomplete.

You divided the 7" form-factor into three different items on the first list, and then into two items (ebooks and gaming) on the third list.

You listed Proximity Sensor as a Nexus 7 advantage when the iPad 3 has one also.

You ignored some of the iPad 3's most significant features: screen resolution (over 3 times the Nexus), more powerful GPU, build quality, liquid smooth UI (Jelly Bean is a huge improvement, but it's still not as responsive as iOS).

You ignored many secondary iPad features such as FaceTime, iCloud, iWork (the office and cloud apps for Android aren't as slick yet), built-in gapless playback (without needing to pay for an app, or resort to a buggy and/or ad-infested free app), etc. These aren't important to everyone, but neither having numerous Messaging apps, Live Wallpapers, Music Players, and Phone apps, (which you listed as Android advantages).

I like my Nexus 7 and prefer its form factor and OS for many of the reasons you mentioned. But if the iPad was the same price, there's no question that I'd get it instead. That screen is absolutely stunning while the Nexus' screen is mediocre at best (I would've happily paid another $30 to get a quality panel that wasn't washed out and didn't screw up colors after watching videos).
 
deslock said:
That wasn't directed at me, however:

It's a question of emphasis. The iPad has over twice the screen area of the Nexus and a much better quality screen, yet you zipped through that almost as if it was a footnote. Treating attributes of differing importance/significance as having equal weight on long lists like this isn't worth much, especially when it's inconsistent and incomplete.

You divided the 7" form-factor into three different items on the first list, and then into two items (ebooks and gaming) on the third list.

You listed Proximity Sensor as a Nexus 7 advantage when the iPad 3 has one also.

You ignored some of the iPad 3's most significant features: screen resolution (over 3 times the Nexus), more powerful GPU, build quality, liquid smooth UI (Jelly Bean is a huge improvement, but it's still not as responsive as iOS).

You ignored many secondary iPad features such as FaceTime, iCloud, iWork (the office and cloud apps for Android aren't as slick yet), built-in gapless playback (without needing to pay for an app, or resort to a buggy and/or ad-infested free app), etc. These aren't important to everyone, but neither having numerous Messaging apps, Live Wallpapers, Music Players, and Phone apps, (which you listed as Android advantages)...
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I was getting back to respond and read this and it's pretty much what I was going to say.
Not a badly made video or anything, it's just a matter of an overall lack of balance in the presentation.


I do admire your energy and willingness to share your thoughts on video. Don't stop making videos or evolving your processes. I'll keep watching.
 
I said it in this thread too:

http://androidforums.com/nexus-7/592296-nexus-7-vs-ipad-3-complete-list.html#post4742120

The fundamental process of counting specifications, then tallying them up as if each spec counts as 1 point, is flawed. First of all, you're only counting specs that you consider important - but more importantly, specs don't each count as 1 point. For the average person, do you think that "NFC" and "tons of tablet-optimized apps" are of equal importance? Or "faster booting" vs. "better screen"? There's a difference between checking off a technical spec - or a feature that's important to a niche community - and a fundamental significant improvement to everyone's user experience with the device.

In the other thread, someone jumped on me for not profusely thanking the original post, and you said he "had your back" - but if you're going to review something, don't you think there will be feedback, and some of that might be negative?
 
I would say most the ipad vs n7 comparison video's posted on youtube are biased one way or another. The Apple vs greater freedom battle promotes that (opps, just let my bias show :p ). From showing superior browser speed by caching on one side and not the other. Showing that your pressing an icon at the same time for both when in fact your pressing one first every time and hiding the fact by acting like your pausing on both for a short period and then raising your finger at the same time. Praising the iPads full web view against the N7 mobile when the N7 can be set to full too. Comparing completely irrelevant items like shutdown time???? Bias abounds on both sides of the argument.

Thanks op for the videoi, though possibly a little biased it was a fun view
 
Hey thanks for the reply, I was surprised with such a negative reaction because i posted all the information on the xda forums and the information was received fairly possitively no one really thought i missed anything for the Ipad side.


"You divided the 7" form-factor into three different items on the first list, and then into two items (ebooks and gaming) on the third list."

Yea, well their are many advantages of having a 7 inch tablet so id thought id list them all Instead of just saying 7 inch;

More portable
Easier one handed use
Much lighter
Gaming
ebooks

I did the same with the ipad instead of just saying it has a bigger screen i gave all the advantages of having a bigger screen
Better viewing
-Documents
-Photos
-Web browsing
-Videos


"You listed Proximity Sensor as a Nexus 7 advantage when the iPad 3 has one also."

Yea gsmearna listed the ipad 3 with no Proximity sensor, so they screwed me on that one

You ignored some of the iPad 3's most significant features: screen resolution (over 3 times the Nexus), more powerful GPU, build quality, liquid smooth UI (Jelly Bean is a huge improvement, but it's still not as responsive as iOS).


In regards to resolution I said the ipad's PPi Was much higher?
I didnt go into benchmarks , processing cpu/gpu because sometimes the ipads faster and sometimes the nexus was faster in benchmarks and real world
I was actually going to put built quality but people on the forums were saying they actually preferred the quality of the nexus so I thought it might be a personal opinion Point
Every single review iv seen says that the nexus 7 and ipad 3 are both very smooth and 1 isn't faster than the other

"You ignored many secondary iPad features such as FaceTime, iCloud, iWork (the office and cloud apps for Android aren't as slick yet), built-in gapless playback (without needing to pay for an app, or resort to a buggy and/or ad-infested free app), etc. These aren't important to everyone, but neither having numerous Messaging apps, Live Wallpapers, Music Players, and Phone apps, (which you listed as Android advantages)."

Isnt Google Talk comparable to Facetime?
hmm Isn't icloud comparable to google drive? or similar Google services?
I did say that the Ipad had better apple intergration
iwork and gapless playback ill add them next time anything else I missed for IOS?



So I think I only missed a few things, so my information was about %95 correct but maybe i should of Spoken longer and more indepth about the Ipads good points
 
pastafarian said:
I would say most the ipad vs n7 comparison video's posted on youtube are biased one way or another. The Apple vs greater freedom battle promotes that (opps, just let my bias show :p ). From showing superior browser speed by caching on one side and not the other. Showing that your pressing an icon at the same time for both when in fact your pressing one first every time and hiding the fact by acting like your pausing on both for a short period and then raising your finger at the same time. Praising the iPads full web view against the N7 mobile when the N7 can be set to full too. Comparing completely irrelevant items like shutdown time???? Bias abounds on both sides of the argument.

Thanks op for the videoi, though possibly a little biased it was a fun view
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the slight bias towards the n7 didn't bother me half as much as the extremely flawed rating system that has already been pointed out.
 
cyprusx said:
Hey thanks for the reply, I was surprised with such a negative reaction because i posted all the information on the xda forums and the information was received fairly possitively no one really thought i missed anything for the Ipad side.


"You divided the 7" form-factor into three different items on the first list, and then into two items (ebooks and gaming) on the third list."

Yea, well their are many advantages of having a 7 inch tablet so id thought id list them all Instead of just saying 7 inch;

More portable
Easier one handed use
Much lighter
Gaming
ebooks

I did the same with the ipad instead of just saying it has a bigger screen i gave all the advantages of having a bigger screen
Better viewing
-Documents
-Photos
-Web browsing
-Videos


"You listed Proximity Sensor as a Nexus 7 advantage when the iPad 3 has one also."

Yea gsmearna listed the ipad 3 with no Proximity sensor, so they screwed me on that one

You ignored some of the iPad 3's most significant features: screen resolution (over 3 times the Nexus), more powerful GPU, build quality, liquid smooth UI (Jelly Bean is a huge improvement, but it's still not as responsive as iOS).


In regards to resolution I said the ipad's PPi Was much higher?
I didnt go into benchmarks , processing cpu/gpu because sometimes the ipads faster and sometimes the nexus was faster in benchmarks and real world
I was actually going to put built quality but people on the forums were saying they actually preferred the quality of the nexus so I thought it might be a personal opinion Point
Every single review iv seen says that the nexus 7 and ipad 3 are both very smooth and 1 isn't faster than the other

"You ignored many secondary iPad features such as FaceTime, iCloud, iWork (the office and cloud apps for Android aren't as slick yet), built-in gapless playback (without needing to pay for an app, or resort to a buggy and/or ad-infested free app), etc. These aren't important to everyone, but neither having numerous Messaging apps, Live Wallpapers, Music Players, and Phone apps, (which you listed as Android advantages)."

Isnt Google Talk comparable to Facetime?
hmm Isn't icloud comparable to google drive? or similar Google services?
I did say that the Ipad had better apple intergration
iwork and gapless playback ill add them next time anything else I missed for IOS?



So I think I only missed a few things, so my information was about %95 correct but maybe i should of Spoken longer and more indepth about the Ipads good points
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it's not so much what you missed or didn't go into depth about.
you can't just randomly assign points single here and there and then tally them up and declare the victor based on the sum of the points. especially when the categories that you arbitrarily defined are so inconsistent and follows no structure.

and of course xda (an android biased forum) isn't going to critique your video. post it in an apple forum and you will probably get banned on the spot.
 
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