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Note 3 users going to the Note 4

blkbeltkid17

blkbeltkid17

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Just asking if anyone here on the Note 3 is looking at going to the note 4? and why?
I have looked into and I dont think it is enough of an upgrade to go to I am thinking about waiting until the 5 comes out and here is to hoping that it will come with 64 bit Android.
 
I have the Note 3, and will likely be upgrading. I have the Note 2 and upgraded to the N3 and it was worthwhile. I expect the same result in upgrading to the N4 from the N3. I have been impressed with the videos of real usage I have seen of the N4. I won't upgrade until root has been achieved however, as root is very important to my usage and needs.
 
got note3 at launch after having note 2 at launch. sorta on the fence about a getting note 4 at launch but most likely will for the improved selfies :D

bummed about the lack of ip67 just because and the lack of 4gb of ram. why is there a huge delay when I open up a new app in pen window? that's a ram issue right? that's why I want more ram. I've heard android won't even support 4gb until it goes 64 bit but whatever. I can and will use more ram once it's bumped up.
 
Morphiend said:
got note3 at launch after having note 2 at launch. sorta on the fence about a getting note 4 at launch but most likely will for the improved selfies :D

bummed about the lack of ip67 just because and the lack of 4gb of ram. why is there a huge delay when I open up a new app in pen window? that's a ram issue right? that's why I want more ram. I've heard android won't even support 4gb until it goes 64 bit but whatever. I can and will use more ram once it's bumped up.
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I doubt that is a RAM issue. How many other phones have 3gb ram.... well, the very short list is gonna be a sammy built phone. 4gb isn't a bottle neck yet IMO. Lack of IP67 is a bummer though, I agree there.
 
I'm going to upgrade. I'm on the T-Mobile Jump program and will be able to turn in my Note 3 for a Note 4 only having to pay the taxes upfront.
 
Yes I will :)

I have the edge program from Verizon.

I might get the Note 4 edge just to be different :)
 
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I'm keeping my One M8 and replacing my Note 3 with an iPhone 6. I need one phone that is more useful during training (sports) and the iPhone is better than both Androids, but the One M8 exposes and implements functionality like Sequence Shot and Slow Motion video capture much better than Samsung devices (terrible for pictures, though!).

The S Pen... Wasn't that useful and I didn't really find the Note Series to be much better than other phones from a productivity standpoint; so I won't be losing anything and in the end it's more diversification than "switching platforms."
 
not sure. Need to feel it and play first. I'm not pre ordering as I have with the previous models.
Sold my N3 for my OPO, which is excellent. The N4 has to blow me away to changed it. So far apart from the 16mp OIS (and depends how this has been implemented) nothing else jumps at me.
 
Unless Verizon offered me a great incentive I wouldn't do it. I have a year to go on my current contract and I just don't see enough of an improvement to justify paying retail for it. Sure I can sell my 3, and find good deals on the 4, but I personally don't NEED it that badly. I will be ready next year for the Note 5 though...
 
Well, if I can't get the Note Edge (or justify its eye-watering cost) then I will absolutely get the Note 4. On Launch Day.

Revolutionary changes and quantum improvements? Not quite.

Incremental upgrades and minor tweaks? More than that.

So somewhere in between there is the move from Note 3 to Note 4. It's not a huge step ... but enough of one that I'll take it :)
 
The_Chief said:
Well, if I can't get the Note Edge (or justify its eye-watering cost) then I will absolutely get the Note 4. On Launch Day.
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Do you know something we don't? ;) If you have ideas on cost for the Edge lets us know because I am buying mine off contract and if absurdly priced I will do like you also indicated and "settle" for the Note 4.
 
I'll be paying full retail as well. And either phone is going to be phenomenal, Bearcats. For pricing I cite THIS:

Note Edge won't be cheap, Note 4 lands in China on the 26th - GSMArena.com news

and THIS:

Galaxy Note Edge To Be Priced Close To $1,000

Yeah, those articles have me jittery about the price.

It's entirely possible that the $1000 tag in China won't necessarily mean $1000 in the United States. This being all about supply and demand, though, consider: Fewer than a million units on Verizon. For the whole country. And a whole bunch of us Android enthusiasts grappling for one.

Can they charge a premium price for it? You bet they can, and they will. Samsung will set UPP (unilateral pricing policies), which is the drop-dead minimum that an authorized seller can charge for the device. Add to that Verizon's penchant for tossing some profit in there (as well as lots of bloat), and it wouldn't shock me at all to see $1250 for the Verizon Note Edge. Not one bit.

Time will tell, though, and I hope i'm wrong. I can see paying $850, even $950 for the Edge as part of the privilege of being an early adopter... but $1200- $1300?

WHEW! That's a tough call right there...
 
The_Chief said:
I'll be paying full retail as well. And either phone is going to be phenomenal, Bearcats. For pricing I cite THIS:

Note Edge won't be cheap, Note 4 lands in China on the 26th - GSMArena.com news

and THIS:

Galaxy Note Edge To Be Priced Close To $1,000

Yeah, those articles have me jittery about the price.

It's entirely possible that the $1000 tag in China won't necessarily mean $1000 in the United States. This being all about supply and demand, though, consider: Fewer than a million units on Verizon. For the whole country. And a whole bunch of us Android enthusiasts grappling for one.

Can they charge a premium price for it? You bet they can, and they will. Samsung will set UPP (unilateral pricing policies), which is the drop-dead minimum that an authorized seller can charge for the device. Add to that Verizon's penchant for tossing some profit in there (as well as lots of bloat), and it wouldn't shock me at all to see $1250 for the Verizon Note Edge. Not one bit.

Time will tell, though, and I hope i'm wrong. I can see paying $850, even $950 for the Edge as part of the privilege of being an early adopter... but $1200- $1300?

WHEW! That's a tough call right there...
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Thanks for the links and I follow the logic. Even 950 would be a tough pill to swallow for me. I lilke bleeding edge but there is a distinct line on this particular unproven technology. Its not like adopting Server 2008R2 or Server2012. They WILL get used period but the world. Yes the screen is cool but Samsung has not really released how they are going to allow developers to write for it.

If they were smart, the would allow it to be essentially open source (yeah, I chuckled at that too myself) so that there is no additional overhead to develop. Then you have the issue that the xxx has a 16:9 screen with no gizmo screen and essentially the exact same phone is 16:9 with a gizmo screen. Its almost like Samsung should have an application to allow porting of code and then allow you to "manipulate" the extended edge code/graphics as a module.

But I digress....I will be watching and waiting. If they only have 1000 units (arbitrary number) and they go fast I might not be able to get one anyway as I like to see a phone released and read reviews/rants/raves for a month or two as people settle into the new platform.
 
I have a stronger feeling not too many people will be Livin' on the Edge, due to price and the likely proprietary UI to support the bendy display.

Price will kill it for most folks and the modder community will probably avoid due to the likely proprietary, Samsung app centric bendy display.

I think the Edge was more a tech "Hail Mary" to offset some of the iPhone buzz..... Has not seemed to have worked too well based on record breaking iPhone orders.

Added: I think Samsung should have dedicated the launch more to the N4 and also released the Qhd version of the S5 with 32GB in the US. That would have had FAR more consumer weight than the out of most consumer priced Edge. I expect the Edge to be a production cost nightmare.
 
The_Chief said:
I'll be paying full retail as well. And either phone is going to be phenomenal, Bearcats. For pricing I cite THIS:

Note Edge won't be cheap, Note 4 lands in China on the 26th - GSMArena.com news

and THIS:

Galaxy Note Edge To Be Priced Close To $1,000

Yeah, those articles have me jittery about the price.

It's entirely possible that the $1000 tag in China won't necessarily mean $1000 in the United States. This being all about supply and demand, though, consider: Fewer than a million units on Verizon. For the whole country. And a whole bunch of us Android enthusiasts grappling for one.

Can they charge a premium price for it? You bet they can, and they will. Samsung will set UPP (unilateral pricing policies), which is the drop-dead minimum that an authorized seller can charge for the device. Add to that Verizon's penchant for tossing some profit in there (as well as lots of bloat), and it wouldn't shock me at all to see $1250 for the Verizon Note Edge. Not one bit.

Time will tell, though, and I hope i'm wrong. I can see paying $850, even $950 for the Edge as part of the privilege of being an early adopter... but $1200- $1300?

WHEW! That's a tough call right there...
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I am right there with ya I would love the edge but I dont know it that will be possible as I am a Very boke college kid right now lol

as for the rest of you thanks for your replies I still dont know if I will do it or not If I do I know I can pay for it over time on tmo and not have to shell out for it and when the 5 comes out I can do the same but I know in the long run that I will be losing money if i continue to do that
 
That Best Buy/Samsung deal is so tempting because I have a backup phone in fantastic condition, that I could use for it. Getting $200 from that phone would be amazing. That said, I'm on the fence about the Note 4 vs. The Edge vs. holding out until the Folding Note is released sometime next year (hopefully).

I'd likely be doing a subsidized upgrade, so to get the Note 4 for practically no money out of pocket is an amazing deal. Best Buy also has $50 waiting for me to use on an upgrade.

Of course, I could always upgrade and then just sell it shortly after, but I really hate the process of selling phones. I'm leaning towards waiting to see what kind of deals they have for the Edge, when it's released (hopefully, they'll have similar deals) and I'm also hoping that they offer the 64gb version of the Edge.

I'd have an even tougher decision, if it was announced that the Note 4 would have a 64gb version, but I believe all the reports said only 32.
 
rushmore said:
I have a stronger feeling not too many people will be Livin' on the Edge, due to price and the likely proprietary UI to support the bendy display.

Price will kill it for most folks and the modder community will probably avoid due to the likely proprietary, Samsung app centric bendy display.

I think the Edge was more a tech "Hail Mary" to offset some of the iPhone buzz..... Has not seemed to have worked too well based on record breaking iPhone orders.

Added: I think Samsung should have dedicated the launch more to the N4 and also released the Qhd version of the S5 with 32GB in the US. That would have had FAR more consumer weight than the out of most consumer priced Edge. I expect the Edge to be a production cost nightmare.
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An Metal-Trimmed 32GB S805 QHD Galaxy S5 with OIS would have been baller, and put that device right back in the discussion, but at the moment it seems to have been kind of forgotten. It's been so long since it's launched now (in Smartphone market terms).

I think a particular weakness in Samsung's marketing and device strategy is that it basically forces them to "forget" their flagships rather quickly because they're always trying to convince people to buy their "other" devices (Mini, Active, Neo, Note, Edge, Alpha). I feel like they need to streamline their product line so that they can better back their flagships over the long haul.

I also don't understand why they don't use Exynos SoC's in the US Models. I think they can put a Modem in the SoC now, and their processor tech was one of their main differentiators back with the Galaxy S and Galaxy S2 devices (Hummingbird and 1st Gen Exynos SoC's). It would also make their devices easier to support, update-wise, no?

Verizon Note 3 will likely be a 32GB device and they most likely won't carry a 64GB version because there are very few people who will pay $350 on contract for an Android Phone (or $749+Tax On Edge or Outright).

Overseas pricing donsn't really indicate US pricing. I know the price of the Note 4 in Korea is like a grand, but the Verizon variant is much cheaper at $600 (same as the Note 3). The AT&T version is much more expensive (~$825+Tax) and the T-Mobile and Sprint Versions are a bit more expensive (~$725+Tax).

Verizon being the cheapest. Who would have thought of it!
 
drexappeal said:
I'd have an even tougher decision, if it was announced that the Note 4 would have a 64gb version, but I believe all the reports said only 32.
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why would this be much of a factor if any at all? the note 4 will have expandable memory so 32 or 64 that dont really matter when you have 128 GB class 10 SD card in your phone?

I can see if you use it heavily for local hosted music and not use streaming services but then again 32 gb is more then you can listen to in about a week
 
blkbeltkid17 said:
why would this be much of a factor if any at all? the note 4 will have expandable memory so 32 or 64 that dont really matter when you have 128 GB class 10 SD card in your phone?

I can see if you use it heavily for local hosted music and not use streaming services but then again 32 gb is more then you can listen to in about a week
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I feel like a revolving door each time someone asks this question to me. I'll just say, refer to all my previous posts regarding storage.
 
blkbeltkid17 said:
haha its all good man
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No worries. Yeah, my situation is actually really unique, but I still have been waiting for the oem's to offer a 64gb option since the Note 2 was originally announced, but all the providers opted for only offering the 16. In fact, only reason I upgraded to the Note 3 was due to 32gb offering.
 
The Verizon edge program is the only reason why I'm upgrading. If it wasn't for that I would keep my Note 3. I'm already on the 10GB data plan so they basically give you $25 off the $40 line fee and the phone is $35 a month. So basically I'm playing $10 more a month and can trade my phone in again (if I want too) a year from now. Plus it's zero down and no upgrade fee.
With the resell value sucking on these high-end Android phones I normally lose half anyway after a year (unless you get a Nexus device). So in this situation I already know I'm upgrading again in 2015. For me I only use a phone for a year and it's time to upgrade. I'm treating this phone as a rental.
But if these types of plans become popular I could actually see used phone values increasing. If there are less used phones on the market it becomes a sellers market.
 
cdmoore74 said:
The Verizon edge program is the only reason why I'm upgrading. If it wasn't for that I would keep my Note 3. I'm already on the 10GB data plan so they basically give you $25 off the $40 line fee and the phone is $35 a month. So basically I'm playing $10 more a month and can trade my phone in again (if I want too) a year from now. Plus it's zero down and no upgrade fee.
With the resell value sucking on these high-end Android phones I normally lose half anyway after a year (unless you get a Nexus device). So in this situation I already know I'm upgrading again in 2015. For me I only use a phone for a year and it's time to upgrade. I'm treating this phone as a rental.
But if these types of plans become popular I could actually see used phone values increasing. If there are less used phones on the market it becomes a sellers market.
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I was looking into the edge program, but I maybe misunderstood how it works - how do you get the math to work where you are only paying $10 more per month?? Like you I trade every year anyway, so like you, if that math actually works out I might as well use the Edge program.
 
Teegunn said:
I was looking into the edge program, but I maybe misunderstood how it works - how do you get the math to work where you are only paying $10 more per month?? Like you I trade every year anyway, so like you, if that math actually works out I might as well use the Edge program.
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Because I'm already on the 10GB plan you get $25 off your line when you do Edge. The monthly payment for the phone is $35 and because they subtract $25 from the $40 smartphone fee that leaves $10 added per month.

10GB plan without Edge:
$40 (smartphone fee) plus $300 down plus $35 activation fee = $335 upfront plus $40 a month.

10GB plan with Edge:
$40 (smartphone fee) - $25 (Edge discount) + $35 (monthly phone payment) = $50 a month zero down.

So the difference "for me" is $10 added to my bill each month. I did not factor the cost for the 10GB plan because that price does not change. Another benefit of Edge is that your contract end date shows for only 1 year. You can return the phone at the 1 year mark with no penalty or continue paying off the phone for the next 8 months (it's a 20 month plan). Or you can just Edge up again with a different phone.
But lets say that a new phone you love comes out 3 months before the one year mark. You just have to make sure that 60% of the retail cost is paid off and you're allowed to do this after 30 days of starting Edge. So if you made 9 payments at $35 a month that equals $315. 60% of $699 is $419.40. So $419.40-$315= $104.40. You can now upgrade early by paying only $104.40 upfront. Obviously you're throwing money away doing this because you still have to give the old phone back but I'm not going to sugarcoat it; the resale value on any of these Android phones are terrible after so many months. I still remember selling my Note 2 for $300 when I upgraded to the Note 3. In this case I lost over $400 from the retail cost.
If you're the type of person that wants a new phone every year with no upfront cost (true zero down) the Edge is pretty legit at least for me. I never keep a phone past 1 year.
 
cdmoore74 said:
Because I'm already on the 10GB plan you get $25 off your line when you do Edge. The monthly payment for the phone is $35 and because they subtract $25 from the $40 smartphone fee that leaves $10 added per month.

10GB plan without Edge:
$40 (smartphone fee) plus $300 down plus $35 activation fee = $335 upfront plus $40 a month.

10GB plan with Edge:
$40 (smartphone fee) - $25 (Edge discount) + $35 (monthly phone payment) = $50 a month zero down.

So the difference "for me" is $10 added to my bill each month. I did not factor the cost for the 10GB plan because that price does not change. Another benefit of Edge is that your contract end date shows for only 1 year. You can return the phone at the 1 year mark with no penalty or continue paying off the phone for the next 8 months (it's a 20 month plan). Or you can just Edge up again with a different phone.
But lets say that a new phone you love comes out 3 months before the one year mark. You just have to make sure that 60% of the retail cost is paid off and you're allowed to do this after 30 days of starting Edge. So if you made 9 payments at $35 a month that equals $315. 60% of $699 is $419.40. So $419.40-$315= $104.40. You can now upgrade early by paying only $104.40 upfront. Obviously you're throwing money away doing this because you still have to give the old phone back but I'm not going to sugarcoat it; the resale value on any of these Android phones are terrible after so many months. I still remember selling my Note 2 for $300 when I upgraded to the Note 3. In this case I lost over $400 from the retail cost.
If you're the type of person that wants a new phone every year with no upfront cost (true zero down) the Edge is pretty legit at least for me. I never keep a phone past 1 year.
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Thanks for the info. I have 4 phones on my Verizon plan. All smartphones. I have 18gb of data I share with all 4 phones. Not sure how that would work out as far as how it would effect my payment if I do the edge program on say, my phone on one line on my account. Right now I have two lines that have upgrades available, a third line with an upgrade available in 2 months. I might have to go into a Verizon store to figure out if using the Edge program is actually worth it for me. On my line I always get a new phone every year. On the other lines I make them wait 2 years. I take one of the upgrades and move it to my line, then use one of my older phones as a hand me down on the lines for my kids. Kinda confusing. I will have to look and research which is the best option for me.
 
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