Obama to place FCC "Gestapo" agents inside Network News rooms to monitor news reporting

[OcalaFlGuy]

Remember now, this is your DEMOCRATIC President who PROMISED YOU Smaller, LESS intrusive Government.

Hopey Changey Yo!

Government Monitors in Newsrooms? | Free Speech, American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ

I was actually reading Another article and bumped into this.

WATCH: Judge Napolitano Takes on 'Radical' FCC Plan to Monitor the Media on 'Fox and Friends' | Fox News Insider

Now, all you Lefties are going to Immediately start flopping around on the floor screaming about the Fox Demon Network.

Go ahead. Google this. What DON'T you see?

What you DON'T see is ANY of The Other Three Major networks having Word One to say about Government agents observing them reporting the news from the inside.

So.

Help me out here.


Are those Other Three networks just That stupid or are they just That Communist?

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[dibblebill]

Nevermind that spying on a people isn't just a communist concept, and also don't forget to give credit where it's due to Republicans as well.

Please note I'm not saying this is right, I'm saying to lay blame where it's due. Congress for voting it in (BOTH sides support these programs in votes, even if not verbally), and the Prez for not vetoing it.

 

[psionandy]

Remember now, this is your DEMOCRATIC President who PROMISED YOU Smaller, LESS intrusive Government.

Hopey Changey Yo!

Government Monitors in Newsrooms? | Free Speech, American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ

I was actually reading Another article and bumped into this.

WATCH: Judge Napolitano Takes on 'Radical' FCC Plan to Monitor the Media on 'Fox and Friends' | Fox News Insider

Or... if you read the WSJ article which is referenced in the post... it says the FCC is doing a voluntary survey of news organisations. But that doesn't sound nearly as exciting. Its all in the way the facts are spun.


(and if we could avoid invoking Nazi/Gestapo metaphors where they aren't appropriate that would be appreciated... )

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

The "metaphor" was made because IMO, this IS a Nazi LIKE effort to control or at least put pressure on the press. Developing 8 specific Government guidelines of what is acceptable sure doesn't sound voluntary to me. Perhaps you should actually do some reading on the Gestapo before you criticize. They had a lot to do with the control of the media in Germany.

You probably also aren't even aware that the Nazi's In Fact had, for several years, a censor in Hollywood who controlled what was and wasn't said about Germany in OUR own films.

So yes To me, it was COMPLETELY appropriate.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[psionandy]

The "metaphor" was made because IMO, this IS a Nazi LIKE effort to control or at least put pressure on the press.

The problem with invoking the Nazis anytime someone is doing something that you don't like, belittles both the point you are trying to make, and trivialises the atrocities committed by that particular organisation, and causes offence many people who even today are suffering from those repercussions.

I'm sure you are familiar with Godwin's Law... but for the benefit of anyone who isn't. They really should check it out Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you don't like a particular party.. fine.
If you think they are acting in an 'evil or malicious manner' then fine.
If you think this is the thin end of the wedge that will remove all of the democratic freedoms of the western world. Fine. Lets look at it, and discuss. I really don't have any issues with you discussing them here, and I'm sure in the process of debate we'll all learn things.

BUT your points (and the debate in general) is better served without resorting to Reductio ad Hitlerum


I'm going to skip over your claim about the Nazi censorship of the US film industry and I'm not even going to mention Mcarthyism. They are certainly interesting topics, and if you want to discuss them in a different thread then fine. But they would I fear sidetrack the discussion you wish to have about the FCC and their CIN study.

So, with 'the greatest of respect' I suggest we get back to the topic you wish to discuss, Namely the FCC and news organisations.

 

[dibblebill]

If it gets signed into law and a fine is put in place for those who don't go along (or a tax, if you will), it's not voluntary.

 

[psionandy]

If it gets signed into law and a fine is put in place for those who don't go along (or a tax, if you will), it's not voluntary.

I agree.. that would be a very different situation. Does anyone have a link to anywhere where it says thats the plan. The WSJarticle which seems to be the source for the blog posts in the OPs original post Ajit Pai: The FCC Wades Into the Newsroom - WSJ.com

Includes information from Ajiit Pai (who is a commissioner on the FCC) Its clear he doesn't like the idea. But nowhere does it suggest its not voluntary. He implies that it would be hard to refuse, but its clear that as the FCC doesn't have jurisdiction over newspapers, if they don't want to do it there is no way to compel them. The Fox/Newscorp group has enough strength to sit it out. Even with the fact they need FCC signoff to broadcast, there's no way that the FCC would dare to take them on over a survey like this.

Does anyone have any link to a primary source suggesting that this is anything other than voluntary? or is it just hyperbole from commenters, bloggers and pundits?

 

[jhawkkw]

Alright, I know Nazism and its history can be a touchy subject. But in all reality this is P&CA and there will be touchy subjects brought up here. So lets tread lightly and watch the hyperbole and metaphors. Attack the issues, not each other and have a lively debate.

 

[!on]

In Soviet America, News Reads You!!!

Really is anyone surprised that media is controlled by government? The UK is just as bad, maybe worse. We have "Nanny State TV" on the morning news (BBC) which at best disapproves of unhealthy lifestyles, to at worst persecuting certain groups like the obese or the unemployed. I can certainly see, shall we say, distant overtones of Nazi Germany persecution of specified types of people deemed unfit for inclusion in the population!