Phaseout of 3G Network

[ozonetrooper]

This is from a magazine I was reading in the "library" this morning :

 

[Gorillalala]

interesting, thanks for sharing

 

[joe71]

In northern Nevada, every now and then my phone will briefly connect with a 3G network, the connection last one or two minutes at most.
The only thing I can think is it was put in place by the bureau of land management, the department of transportation or the forest service, it was set up with or eventually had solar panels installed to charge the batteries
Why is it still operating? I think it was either forgotten about or it's some back up plan. Personally I think it was forgotten about or it was put up on some mountain top and people didn't want to go remove it.
The connection is sporadic, you most certainly won't be streaming Netflix

 

[puppykickr]

In northern Nevada, every now and then my phone will briefly connect with a 3G network, the connection last one or two minutes at most.
The only thing I can think is it was put in place by the bureau of land management, the department of transportation or the forest service, it was set up with or eventually had solar panels installed to charge the batteries
Why is it still operating? I think it was either forgotten about or it's some back up plan. Personally I think it was forgotten about or it was put up on some mountain top and people didn't want to go remove it.
The connection is sporadic, you most certainly won't be streaming Netflix

it will be on until either those frequencies are reallocated, or until there are no working devices using it.

this is my best guess using info from my past experiences with the end of analog (900mhz), the end (not quite) of 2G, and the current attempts at AM radio, the loss of FM capability on some devices, the attack on CB radio, and others that I may or may notbe aware of

keep in mind that all frequencies like this were once free for the use of anyone

that is becomming less and less true

also keep in mind that the loss of these and of many other enjoyable things from the past (large, powerful speakers and amps, media with great audio, even cellphones with good range, etc.) have all been degraded or even destroyed by the acceptance of cellphones and other digital drivel.

remember that with every so-called 'upgrade' in this market is always followed with a degradation in some part of the service that is often overlooked by the masses, such as a feature you like that most people dont use.
(that is happening with the FM receiver on Androids)
most folks i know dont even know that there is an offline FM radio built into their phones

it isnt even an advertised feature anymore

that is because the manufacturers would like to do away with it altogether to make each device cheaper (for them, not you. it's an 'upgrade', remember? that means you will pay more for it)

the pathetic range measured in feet of 5G compared to the range measured in miles of 900mhz analog shows that cellular range is decreasing with each 'upgrade'

that means more of these antennas are needed, more radio radiation is produced, and our landscape becomes a prickle pear of antennas poking upwards everywhere

and we pay for it with our money and health with each 'upgrade'

what we gain is never close to what we lose

THE SWIMMING POOL ON THE TITANIC IS STILL FULL

 

[ozonetrooper]

When I was "into" 2-way radio is when I really got an understanding of "frequencies"

My radio was an AM/FM/Sideband with a Radio frequency oscillator to dial up every feak one KHz at a time. I used a frequency meter to tell me where I was at when I was off the 23/40 channels of CB band, (27 MHz) I had a radio operator in the Panama Canal Zone ask me if I knew I was on a Government frequency and I tole him yeah I know .... lol ... We talked for a few minutes every morning.

Along with all the bands assigned for usage there is polarity such as the antennas. 360° ground plane antenna and beam antennas which have a vertical side and a horizontal side.

Then things took a radical turn when the digital age came upon us ... Analog was a thing of the past. Digital brought the ability to "trunk" banks and the govt removed the cell phone banks from the 800 band and they were no longer accessible with a crystal scanner. Actually with the progression of the digital radio, the old crystal scanners became obsolete.

Used to be one could monitor police and such until they started moving the frequencies to avoid big ears ....

The city popo here have a very sophisticated radio system that does not allow outsides to hear any transmission from a police unit, the dispatchers office can be heard but car to car and car to dispatch is not accessible.

Most big cities have moved to the "trunking" systems as this allows communications between all agencies in the area.

 

[puppykickr]

When I was "into" 2-way radio is when I really got an understanding of "frequencies"

My radio was an AM/FM/Sideband with a Radio frequency oscillator to dial up every feak one KHz at a time. I used a frequency meter to tell me where I was at when I was off the 23/40 channels of CB band, (27 MHz) I had a radio operator in the Panama Canal Zone ask me if I knew I was on a Government frequency and I tole him yeah I know .... lol ... We talked for a few minutes every morning.

Along with all the bands assigned for usage there is polarity such as the antennas. 360° ground plane antenna and beam antennas which have a vertical side and a horizontal side.

Then things took a radical turn when the digital age came upon us ... Analog was a thing of the past. Digital brought the ability to "trunk" banks and the govt removed the cell phone banks from the 800 band and they were no longer accessible with a crystal scanner. Actually with the progression of the digital radio, the old crystal scanners became obsolete.

Used to be one could monitor police and such until they started moving the frequencies to avoid big ears ....

The city popo here have a very sophisticated radio system that does not allow outsides to hear any transmission from a police unit, the dispatchers office can be heard but car to car and car to dispatch is not accessible.

Most big cities have moved to the "trunking" systems as this allows communications between all agencies in the area.

yes

and to think that it is always legal to receive any voluntary radio transmission
transmitting is something else, but was not always that way

cordless phones allowed anyone with a receiver that had those same frequencies could legally listen in to your conversations- even cops without a wiretap warrant

my guess is that it is the same with cellphones, because you are still broadcasting over the public airwaves and therefore have no expectation of privacy

i have been out of radio for a while, so things with legallity may have changed

 

[ozonetrooper]

I remember the good old day's when all you had to do is go buy a 5 dollar crystal from Radio Shack and plug it into your scanner ...

I had a digital trunking (receive only) scanner a long time ago, I was not smart enough to program it nor did I know the frequencies to program in.

A buddy who was a city fire department employee, kept it up to date for me, until he could not get the police freaks anymore ...

Now I use this but as stated, I can not hear the car transmissions in my city, nor does it track the laptop traffic.

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