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Ringtones/notifications that distinguish different groups?

Hi all,

I'm looking for a way to do two slightly different things:

1) I want to be able to assign different ringtones to different groups on the phone (ie based on the groups assigned within the Google contacts database).

2) I really need to be able to set the phone on silent overnight for everything (calls, emails, sms messages) EXCEPT for calls from people in a VIP list who I want to be able to wake me up.

I've been able to do this on "dumb" phones for the last 10 years! Can anyone restore my faith in this thing's smartness?
 
I'm looking for something very similar, except for SMS messages. Hopefully someone will be able to help us both.

In my searches, I have found various apps which combined might serve your needs. Look at "Missed Call", "Ring Scheduler", probably others.
 
In the handcent sms app and people app can you not just set the same sms tone/ringtone for all the people in a group?

Don't have a clue how you can do the VIP thing, sorry
 
I tried that in handcent, and it did not provide unique tone/notification per group. Perhaps I did not set it correctly.
 
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