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rnlcomp

rnlcomp

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I know it's still very early but has anyone found a way to root an unlocked Note 8?

Thanks for looking.
 
rnlcomp said:
Forgot about the knox, I think I'll leave it be for now, just got it today and don't want to risk the warranty. But thanks again for the links.
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From what I understand, knox doesn't get tripped, so it won't void the warranty. But you won't be able to use Samsung Pay or any online banking. I was gonna root, but I use Same Pay and do online banking.
 
I don't use Samsung pay but do use online banking. I guess I'll just enjoy not having all that carrier bloat. Loving it so far, a little peeved over the new C usb port, I've got tons of micro usb cables home and work, now I gotta drag that little adapter around with me until I resupply the cables. WTH were they thinking changing that?
 
from what I have read KNOX DOES get tripped and you can't recover from that. this is a major reason why one has to think twice about rooting on samsung.

usb c is much more robust and much better than older usb tech. you can get PD charging speeds and gigabit data transfer. not so with older tech.

hey bro, technology evolves.
 
This is taken from the 1st post on the samFAIL thread, which is used to root snapdragon devices...

'DISCLAIMER 3:

* SamFAIL DOES NOT TRIP KNOX

* Boot.img is SECURE which means you MUST use SYSTEM ROOT. (Similar to SamPWND)

* This means that MAGISK DOES NOT WORK

* Which also means SAFETY NET FAILS. So any apps you enjoy that require passing Safety Net will most likely not work while you are rooted with SamFAIL

* Again, similar to SamPWND, this root method uses a factory binary boot.img which is necessary to boot the modified system. THIS MEANS BATTERY ONLY CHARGES TO 80% (Thanks Samsung.)

* SamFAIL DOES NOT UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER AND DOES NOT SIM UNLOCK YOUR PHONE.'

InfernalByte said:
Disable the app and then hide the icon.
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He has an unlocked device, so no carrier bloat. BTW, when you disable an app, you don't have to hide the icon.
 
I said several years ago that rooting would become less and less important, and more and more of a pain. I bought the original Motorola Droid in October 2009, and by December it was rooted with a custom ROM on it. I've rooted and ROMmed almost every Android device I've owned... not because I didn't like the stock interface or features, but because there were features I wanted that only a custom ROM could provide. However, Android has grown up a lot in the last few years, and many of the features I used to get with a ROM are now stock. I use online banking and mobile payments DAILY: rooting these days would reduce my phone's capabilities, not increase them.

Besides, it's worth staying stock just to set up Samsung Pay at a store with a credit card terminal, and the cashier says "oh, sorry... we're not set up for mobile payments"... and I hold the phone to the terminal, make the payment and the receipt spits out. And I get to say "Samsung Pay - Apple can't do that"

PRICELESS

:D
 
The_Chief said:
I said several years ago that rooting would become less and less important, and more and more of a pain. I bought the original Motorola Droid in October 2009, and by December it was rooted with a custom ROM on it. I've rooted and ROMmed almost every Android device I've owned... not because I didn't like the stock interface or features, but because there were features I wanted that only a custom ROM could provide. However, Android has grown up a lot in the last few years, and many of the features I used to get with a ROM are now stock. I use online banking and mobile payments DAILY: rooting these days would reduce my phone's capabilities, not increase them.

Besides, it's worth staying stock just to set up Samsung Pay at a store with a credit card terminal, and the cashier says "oh, sorry... we're not set up for mobile payments"... and I hold the phone to the terminal, make the payment and the receipt spits out. And I get to say "Samsung Pay - Apple can't do that"

PRICELESS

:D
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Not to hijack the thread, but also with Samsung pay, your card information is never actually used. For security reasons and to avoid issues with chipped cards, Samsung Pay actually issues you a different card number, so your actual information is never out there. They periodically change the card number, which is an added bonus.

BigRedGonzo
 
InfernalByte said:
Disable the app and then hide the icon.
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Nothing to disable or hide, the device is unlocked direct from Samsung.

The_Chief said:
I said several years ago that rooting would become less and less important, and more and more of a pain. I bought the original Motorola Droid in October 2009, and by December it was rooted with a custom ROM on it. I've rooted and ROMmed almost every Android device I've owned... not because I didn't like the stock interface or features, but because there were features I wanted that only a custom ROM could provide. However, Android has grown up a lot in the last few years, and many of the features I used to get with a ROM are now stock. I use online banking and mobile payments DAILY: rooting these days would reduce my phone's capabilities, not increase them.

Besides, it's worth staying stock just to set up Samsung Pay at a store with a credit card terminal, and the cashier says "oh, sorry... we're not set up for mobile payments"... and I hold the phone to the terminal, make the payment and the receipt spits out. And I get to say "Samsung Pay - Apple can't do that"

PRICELESS

:D
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I have also been rooting since the Droid back in the day and can see exactly what you mean. LOL on the Apple can't do that. :D. Now that I think about it, the last phone I ever rooted was my Note 3, I've had 2 Note 5's one Verizon, one Sprint and what's weird about it is the phone from Verizon was much snappier if that makes any sense than the one from Sprint, still scratching head on that one.

I think I'll look into the Samsung pay a little deeper, I already have a merchant account thru Square so monetary transactions aren't new just never used the mobile as a substitute for a cc.

BigRedGonzo said:
Not to hijack the thread, but also with Samsung pay, your card information is never actually used. For security reasons and to avoid issues with chipped cards, Samsung Pay actually issues you a different card number, so your actual information is never out there. They periodically change the card number, which is an added bonus.

BigRedGonzo
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Now that kind of security has me intrigued indeed. I'm gonna jump in and check it out, thanks.
 
I went to Christmas Village Arts and Crafts show today. Wall to wall people! Every vendor it seemed had a tiny wifi register so I pulled out my phone and flipped up my Sampay. The knee jerk reaction was "oh, we don't accept Apple Pay!". "No problem." Swipe...check on their end and done. Amazement held sway. Then they were full of questions about how I just did that very neat trick. I had so much fun! And made my sister so mad at the same time. She has an iphone which couldn't even send out a text message while we were there. LOL!
 
The_Chief said:
I think you'll find Samsung Pay faster and more secure than a credit card transaction - especially the chip cards, which are slow as molasses. Samsung Pay uses tokenization, so your actual credit card number is never used. Plus it flips out the cashiers... extra points!
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All set up :cool: and yeah no doubt the chip readers they have are slow as crap, I mentioned before I have a merchant account with Square, I have a swipe reader and a chip reader and my transactions are damn near instant when I accept a payment, dunno why retailers machines are so slow. My chip reader is smaller than a 15 pack of chewing gum.



The_Chief said:
I think you'll find Samsung Pay faster and more secure than a credit card transaction - especially the chip cards, which are slow as molasses. Samsung Pay uses tokenization, so your actual credit card number is never used. Plus it flips out the cashiers... extra points!
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Just tried it out today, the cashier was like huh? How did you do that LOL. :D
 
Religious Guy said:
If I root a device and then modify a system file and then unroot the device, will my changes stay?
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Its possible, the concern I would have is how often, if ever, the OS checks for integrity of the system files. If it does, it could cause the system to error out when the file doesn't match what is expected.

BigRedGonzo
 
If you root your phone and lose use of SamPay you don't get paid. For example this year I cashed out some of my Samsung Pay reward points (not all of them!) and got $140 in Best Buy digital gift cards. All that with the convenience of not carrying a purse or wallet with me shopping.
 
But that's really not rooted. If the existing rooting method doesn't require unlocking the bootloader (which is currently impossible) and doesn't trip the Knox counter (which is inevitable), it seems to be a rewrite of the old SafeStrap application for the Note 4, by which the stock bootloader and boot image aren't touched, but isolated: a second image is created, and the phone is told to boot to THAT. It acts like a rooted phone, and root-only apps can be used. Of course, in that second operating system, apps are operating in a perceived root access, so Samsung Pay and banking apps won't work. Since the phone isn't actually rooted, it can all be removed without a trace and returned to stock.

However, Samsung and the carriers have long conspired to make rooting a relic of Android history. And they've done a good job of it.
 
Hello, I'm currently looking for a way to root my samsung note 8 sm-n950w under snapdragon. Thanks for worth replying.
 
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