Sick of Samsung Bloatware. What to do?

[Snafuy]

I know this is a low end phone, but I suspect the Samsung crap apps are making it seem worse than it really is.
Do I need to flash a ROM, or is there an easier way to kill and replace the worst parts?
BTW, what are the worst parts? Is there a list?
And in either case, what are the best tools for doing so?

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[GameTheory]

If you have root there are a few ways...
1. install custom rom. Lineage OS for your device
2. install titanium backup and freeze the bloat (recommended if you have root and don't want custom rom) Titanium Backup
3. use a root file manager/browser and remove the bloat like Root Explorer or similar
4. use twrp file browser to remove bloat
5. I'm sure there's other ways I'm forgetting

Personally I prefer to freeze apps with titanium backup when rooted and have no access to a custom rom. You gain nothing from removing bloat from the system partition since you can't really use that extra space. So better to just freeze them.

For a non rooted phone you're very limited...
1. Disable whatever apps you can through system settings and live with the rest.
2. Freeze them with ADB which lets you freeze any app (though they call it an uninstall even though it doesn't really uninstall them). This is the method I use for my non rooted phones. Here's the tool I use for that. BackNDebloat

 

[PitCarver]

Package Disabler for Samsung.

 

[Jfalls63]

Package Disabler for Samsung.

They have removed it from the Play Store again.
Sucks!

 

[Jfalls63]

Well, it's back. Should have checked before replying. Wasn't there Saturday. I've paid for the app twice and refuse to pay for a third. ADB from now on.

 

[Xavier Black]

Let's make this point very clear:

I don't know why people keep saying and giving unaccurate information about deblowting the phone off crap apps "supposedly" doesn't gain space and doesn't give you any thing other than the opportunity of uninstalling what ever you want to get rid of..they keep saying this ALL ACROSS this forum and some other "places".

Let me inform you that I DID GAIN about 4gigs in my §5 by doing so..and yes, I could learn that by looking at the numbers and not just that..you can tell your phone doesn't act like in very very very very "slow motion" any more..

After I gained the 4gigs I'm referring to, I was able to load about 78 third party apps and I still have another 3gigs waiting on me..

So you still are saying the user of the deblowted device doesn't gain space..i'd advice to think twice before you repeat that ever again..lol.

Just saying.

 

[GameTheory]

To understand why many people say this you first have to understand the android structure...

User installed apps are located in /data/app
System apps are located in /system/app and /system/priv-app

The data partition has its' own alloted space
The system partition also has its' own alloted space aside from the data

Without root the user has no write access to the system partition(fact).

The carrier and oem bloatware that people are always complaining about are usually located in either two locations in the system directory. When removing said apps from the system dir you open up space in the system dir that you cannot use without root and a little hackery(hackery guide here).

When you install apps normally from the play store they install to data not system. So no matter how little space you have in data or how much you have spare in system that does not change. The system space is not used unless you root and do some hackery.

The real benefit from removing bloat is in reducing ram usage, network data usage, and background resource to reduce or eliminate lag.

Currently I have 17.16gb free in data and 1.76gb free in system. The system space is useless to me since playstore apps will not install there unless I do hackery that I simply don't care for.

One other thing, if you decide to move apps to system when those apps update you will have two copies. When a system app updates from play store, it installs the update to /data/app leaving you with the older copy in system now consuming space on both directories.

As you said this info will be repeated all over this forum and quite frankly all over the internet because it's true.

 

[dontpanicbobby]

Don't use the Samsung apps.

 

[Xavier Black]

I do understand what people say..I never said other wise..what I said if you read carefully..I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID..IT'S INACCURATE..and of course we are talking of a device already with root access..a device with not root CAN NOT uninstall preloaded apps including system ones..so it's a redundancy mentioning if the device in question either has root access or not...

Any way..I DO like some info you threw in there but most of what you said is irrelevant..

Thanks for the response.

 

[GameTheory]

Let's make this point very clear:

I don't know why people keep saying and giving unaccurate information about deblowting the phone off crap apps "supposedly" doesn't gain space and doesn't give you any thing other than the opportunity of uninstalling what ever you want to get rid of..they keep saying this ALL ACROSS this forum and some other "places".

Let me inform you that I DID GAIN about 4gigs in my §5 by doing so..and yes, I could learn that by looking at the numbers and not just that..you can tell your phone doesn't act like in very very very very "slow motion" any more..

After I gained the 4gigs I'm referring to, I was able to load about 78 third party apps and I still have another 3gigs waiting on me..

So you still are saying the user of the deblowted device doesn't gain space..i'd advice to think twice before you repeat that ever again..lol.

Just saying.

Sorry, but I never said you "don't gain space" which is what your entire post is about. Making this false claim and offering up no help to the OP makes your post completely irrelevant.

I did however say "you can't really use that extra space" (obviously extra space from debloating). At least not without hacks.