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Since I am up for an upgrade..

Milo Williamson

Milo Williamson

Extreme Android User
When changing from cell to cell, I had it for a spell, so should I wait until everything becomes so ancient to get my pixel, or should I stay faithful with moto edge plus (2020)?
 
Thanks, I think I will tell my mother, since due for an upgrade and also we will be in town though. But she hates of having to wait for about an hour though, I rather do it duration in the middle of the day instead of waiting until three p.m... :)
 
Today they're all downgrades IMO. They haven't added anything, only taken away. The UI keeps regressing more towards the era of Windows 1.x with each generation. I would keep what works until it breaks, try repairing it then, and only replacing it when it's not possible to repair it. Ignore anyone who tells you that keeping an old phone is bad. ( anyone who judges a person over the age of their phone has larger problems than they're willing to admit)

I'm using an S4 Mini, a phone that's now 10 years old. It works just fine for me.
 
The battery in mine has started to fail, I now get just one day of very light use, when it was new, I got at least 2 days of not so light use.. so now I'm looking for my next phone as well.
 
Shame you have to replace the phone instead of the battery. Yet they call not including the charger brick in box a 'environmental benefit'. You wanna know what's a real environmental benefit? Being able to replace your phone's battery instead of throwing the entire phone in the garbage and buy a new one when the sealed battery loses capacity.
 
After defusing my fb from my cell, also live wall papers, it does not get to warm though, but it also carries tremendous weight with my ex though.
:: sigh :: What a fool she has been.. you all know my story far too well.
 
I'm still quite miffed that I can't use my favorite older phones anymore because the carriers became futurist dicks. Anybody remember when the job of a company was to satisfy the customer? "The customer is always right?" that must have died with my optimism.
 
Oh the old phones still technically work as in they can still be wifi-enabled MP3 players, download APKs and play games and read ebooks, even take notes and do basic calculator/weather functions. But as phones and messaging platforms they're dead so they can't be used a smartphones anymore. I'd be carrying both my S5 (the oldest smartphone usable in 2023) along with my Thunderbolt to do what I can do with just the S5 for the nostalgia. Which is saying something since I wasn't there when the Thunderbolt came out in 2011, but in 2020 and up until late 2022, it was a nice ride. I loved that thing, even if everyone else hated it. Sense 3 was just awesome. Nothing today feels as nice or as well-made. Just flat, cheap and basic. Boring.

A very unique time and era of great early Android development gone....because carriers couldn't or wouldn't find a way to keep 2G, 3G, 4G LTE and 5G going all at once, even though they obviously were until February 2023, so it can be done. I hate futurists...they say all this about 'going green' by not including charging bricks or manuals, but then you look at the fact they basically reduced all the early smartphones to e-waste and got rid of removable batteries and carriers ensured only mostly modern smartphones work today, which, exempting the Galaxy S5 due to 'accidental VoLTE compatibility', means no phone with a removable battery can be used 100% anymore. They basically promote disposability and constant upgrade cycles (and app developers encourage it even more with many apps today popping up messages demanding you update to continue to use the app) at the same time they get rid of useful stuff like manuals to 'promote a better, cleaner planet'

It's a bushload of bushwah, if you ask me, and one reason I opted out of buying anything new today. Even my Nintendo Switch was purchased second hand (and it's a V1, not the V2 or whatever the modern one is called)

There's no device made in the last 10 years that will ever stand the test of time like vintage tech can still do. I got tech that dates to the freaking 1950s that works with minimal repair and sometimes works out of the box, because it was made to be serviced, repaired and kept. Tech then was meant to be passed down or sold secondhand. Today? toss it into the trash and buy another one. How anyone sees that as sustainable is a mystery. Worse is that culture frowns on anyone keeping anything old enough. People comment all the time that '2007 called, they want their laptop back' at me using my 16 year old Dell laptop running Windows 7. Hey, it works, futurist, go frell off!

It's even worse when I tell people I don't do subscriptions, or don't support the 'you'll own nothing, and be happy' model that promotes software and tech as a service (see: Windows 10, Google Stadia, Apple Arcade, Youtube Music (no more buying songs), and stuff such as Netflix, Prime Video, Disney+ and Paramount+ to name a few). I do physical media, and the closest I got to streaming is purchases tied to many platforms, including Amazon Video, Amazon MP3, Apple iTunes and using period-correct hardware (as in 2009-13) to play it all. No HDCP mess, not even HDMI. I'm using CRT TVs also.

I refuse to live in the dystopia that they're trying to build out. That makes me a freak to most people, and a pariah to others. The lines such as "adapt to the future or be left behind' and 'why don't you get with the times, man' are typical futurist rhetoric that grows tiresome. Why does it matter to them what I do or don't do? I refuse to participate in their bright, 5000K LED, clinical hospital designed home life, complete with those annoying swoopy 'live laugh love' decor. I refuse to use a smartphone bigger than my hand, and if I could, I'd give up smartphones entirely and just use my rotary because tech today sucks and is still not getting better. My 16 year old Dell has more character and quality than any modern laptop I tried, and that includes the MacBook Pro.
 
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Oh the old phones still technically work as in they can still be wifi-enabled MP3 players, download APKs and play games and read ebooks, even take notes and do basic calculator/weather functions. But as phones and messaging platforms they're dead so they can't be used a smartphones anymore. I'd be carrying both my S5 (the oldest smartphone usable in 2023) along with my Thunderbolt to do what I can do with just the S5 for the nostalgia. Which is saying something since I wasn't there when the Thunderbolt came out in 2011, but in 2020 and up until late 2022, it was a nice ride. I loved that thing, even if everyone else hated it. Sense 3 was just awesome. Nothing today feels as nice or as well-made. Just flat, cheap and basic. Boring.

A very unique time and era of great early Android development gone....because carriers couldn't or wouldn't find a way to keep 2G, 3G, 4G LTE and 5G going all at once, even though they obviously were until February 2023, so it can be done. I hate futurists...they say all this about 'going green' by not including charging bricks or manuals, but then you look at the fact they basically reduced all the early smartphones to e-waste and got rid of removable batteries and carriers ensured only mostly modern smartphones work today, which, exempting the Galaxy S5 due to 'accidental VoLTE compatibility', means no phone with a removable battery can be used 100% anymore. They basically promote disposability and constant upgrade cycles (and app developers encourage it even more with many apps today popping up messages demanding you update to continue to use the app) at the same time they get rid of useful stuff like manuals to 'promote a better, cleaner planet'

It's a bushload of bushwah, if you ask me, and one reason I opted out of buying anything new today. Even my Nintendo Switch was purchased second hand (and it's a V1, not the V2 or whatever the modern one is called)

There's no device made in the last 10 years that will ever stand the test of time like vintage tech can still do. I got tech that dates to the freaking 1950s that works with minimal repair and sometimes works out of the box, because it was made to be serviced, repaired and kept. Tech then was meant to be passed down or sold secondhand. Today? toss it into the trash and buy another one. How anyone sees that as sustainable is a mystery. Worse is that culture frowns on anyone keeping anything old enough. People comment all the time that '2007 called, they want their laptop back' at me using my 16 year old Dell laptop running Windows 7. Hey, it works, futurist, go frell off!

It's even worse when I tell people I don't do subscriptions, or don't support the 'you'll own nothing, and be happy' model that promotes software and tech as a service (see: Windows 10, Google Stadia, Apple Arcade, Youtube Music (no more buying songs), and stuff such as Netflix, Prime Video, Disney+ and Paramount+ to name a few). I do physical media, and the closest I got to streaming is purchases tied to many platforms, including Amazon Video, Amazon MP3, Apple iTunes and using period-correct hardware (as in 2009-13) to play it all. No HDCP mess, not even HDMI. I'm using CRT TVs also.

I refuse to live in the dystopia that they're trying to build out. That makes me a freak to most people, and a pariah to others. The lines such as "adapt to the future or be left behind' and 'why don't you get with the times, man' are typical futurist rhetoric that grows tiresome. Why does it matter to them what I do or don't do? I refuse to participate in their bright, 5000K LED, clinical hospital designed home life, complete with those annoying swoopy 'live laugh love' decor. I refuse to use a smartphone bigger than my hand, and if I could, I'd give up smartphones entirely and just use my rotary because tech today sucks and is still not getting better. My 16 year old Dell has more character and quality than any modern laptop I tried, and that includes the MacBook Pro.
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Yeah it is easy to get stuck in the past, I think I waited almost far too long to get my Vista, I got it a few years ago, wereas my psp just died on me slowly. It does a loud roar sound in the disc, I cannot find the charger chord for it anymore, somewhere scraping in my mind's eye, there is my gameboy sp Adapter with the wire charger, my brother in law got me a nintendo sp, yeah with Zelda within it, was his old roomates from ages ago. the last electronic I did pick up was my Samsung Galaxy Tablet, a few years ago, on St. Patrick's Day. was with my friend's death. I have not bought any electronic big items since then.. Just wanted something that I can do several things and having so vertisble with that note as well too. So I am against buying anything new, unless I can do a ton of researching, and since I have been talking about my Google pixel, but I am also persauding to purchase another new Moto cell too, but depends on what I do feel like at that time...
 
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