The Great Android Backlash of AD 2010

[Apollos]

So what happens when a service provider (i.e. Verizon) feverishly releases multiple Android-powered devices without the resources or competence to properly support them?

How can an organization of their size and depth not conduct the due diligence to realize that marketing, selling, and supporting Android devices is not the same as selling new BlackBerry 8330s?

If we, as Android owners, were content with the shit OS that RIM offers, we would all be punching away on archaic devices with no HTML support.

Instead, we're punching away on state-of-the-art devices with no vendor support. I am not sure which is worse.

I predict a brewing storm for Verizon and, for that matter, Sprint and others who lackadaisically and sluggishly provide software and hardware support for these devices. Many Android devices are running 1GHz processors because we end users are not inherently patient and we like snappiness. Too bad the snappiness only exists in our phones.

 

[AnotherHiggins]

You complain about the sluggishness of Verizon's and Sprint's networks but don't mention the alternative: AT&T's craptacular network that makes Verizon look amazing?

Is this Steve Jobs?

Anyway, in my area my 3G coverage is pretty damn good. Sorry if that's not your experience.

 

[TonyG916]

If Apollos had a newsletter, i would purchase a hundred subscriptions and never leave the bathroom.

 

[herse182]

Umm What?

 

[Apollos]

You complain about the sluggishness of Verizon's and Sprint's networks but don't mention the alternative: AT&T's craptacular network that makes Verizon look amazing?

Is this Steve Jobs?

Anyway, in my area my 3G coverage is pretty damn good. Sorry if that's not your experience.

The OP has absolutely nothing to do with data coverage. Nice try though...may want to brush off your reading comprehension skills prior to posting.

 

[najaboy]

You complain about the sluggishness of Verizon's and Sprint's networks but don't mention the alternative: AT&T's craptacular network that makes Verizon look amazing?

Is this Steve Jobs?

Anyway, in my area my 3G coverage is pretty damn good. Sorry if that's not your experience.

Nah... he's pissing and moaning about things such as the Froyo not being pushed yet. Some folks just happen to act like spoiled kids who want instant gratification of their every whim.

 

[Stam2000]

Nah... he's pissing and moaning about things such as the Froyo not being pushed yet. Some folks just happen to act like spoiled kids who want instant gratification of their every whim.

Maybe someone should direct him to the all things root section if they want 2.2 so badly

 

[cortecds]

Um, differences are bound to occur but can be resolved in polite manners.
Besides that have you read this guys?
http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/106873-zero-tolerance-policy-all-members-read.html

 

[mozes316]

So what happens when a service provider (i.e. Verizon) feverishly releases multiple Android-powered devices without the resources or competence to properly support them?

How can an organization of their size and depth not conduct the due diligence to realize that marketing, selling, and supporting Android devices is not the same as selling new BlackBerry 8330s?

If we, as Android owners, were content with the shit OS that RIM offers, we would all be punching away on archaic devices with no HTML support.

Instead, we're punching away on state-of-the-art devices with no vendor support. I am not sure which is worse.

I predict a brewing storm for Verizon and, for that matter, Sprint and others who lackadaisically and sluggishly provide software and hardware support for these devices. Many Android devices are running 1GHz processors because we end users are not inherently patient and we like snappiness. Too bad the snappiness only exists in our phones.

So much anger... Have a beer, breath deeply...

Verizon has been fine by me...

 

[slinky317]

We're annoyed, sure, but when we all get our updates all this "anger" will go away and it will be forgotten. There will be no backlash, and in the end, we're actually happy deep down inside that Verizon is going the extra mile to test these releases so we don't get buggy updates.

In short, chill out.

 

[batjeeper]

We're annoyed, sure, but when we all get our updates all this "anger" will go away and it will be forgotten.

Sorry Slink, gotta disagree with you. As soon as 2.2 gets pushed, the anger over wanting 3.0 begins.

 

[mobiledevice]

Im so angery i coould scream a horse

 

[Adamx]

roflsauce, comparing android update to lack of any decent OS on a rim device? wow OP is a ******.

 

[BzB]

i don't understand the problem. other than being able to keep the phones in stock (which is not vzw's fault) is there a problem?

if this is about 2.2 then somebody get the op a box of tissues...

 

[NoShftShck16]

OP i feel like the steps for Froyo (if that is what you are talking about) go Google, HTC, Verizon.

Whose to say HTC, with Sense, isn't what is holding all of this up. Why wouldn't Verizon want to advertise this as a 2.2 device, like the others launching. The DINC is a pivotal part of their marketing campaign. You have the jumbotron (X), the hard keyboard (D2) and the soft keyboard (DINC). All but the DINC are 2.2.

I think its HTC and Sense that is holding this up, not so much Verizon.

 

[euph_22]

I'm getting really sick of people like the OP expecting a stable, feature packed update 5 minutes after the code is released. It takes time to develop, it takes to test. What ticks me off, is these are the same people who will be on here in a second complaining about problems with the update.

 

[dibs ODDJOB]

If my phone was broken or crippled I might be upset. But its hard to get mad when my phone is solid and one of the best available as is.

 

[Stroupified]

sprint got 2.2 for the evo a couple weeks ago so we all know the verizon release must be around the corner. and if you must have 2.2 now then update your radio and flash one of the many stable roms that are out now. the carriers haven't forgot about us (yet) but when they do we will always have the dedicated and brilliant minds of the devs to provide us with the latest and greatest for our devices. look at the G1, forgotten by t-mobile but owners are still able to install 2.2 thanks to the devoted android community. don't get your panties in a bunch everybody

 

[rushmore]

So what happens when a service provider (i.e. Verizon) feverishly releases multiple Android-powered devices without the resources or competence to properly support them?

How can an organization of their size and depth not conduct the due diligence to realize that marketing, selling, and supporting Android devices is not the same as selling new BlackBerry 8330s?

If we, as Android owners, were content with the shit OS that RIM offers, we would all be punching away on archaic devices with no HTML support.

Instead, we're punching away on state-of-the-art devices with no vendor support. I am not sure which is worse.

I predict a brewing storm for Verizon and, for that matter, Sprint and others who lackadaisically and sluggishly provide software and hardware support for these devices. Many Android devices are running 1GHz processors because we end users are not inherently patient and we like snappiness. Too bad the snappiness only exists in our phones.

Paradigm for their business models. Phones were "fire and forget" for the most part, with long gaps (at least a year) between updates for symbian, BB and WM. Now carriers and OEM's are dealing with an increasingly more aware public, in regards to Android updates and features. A lot more accumulating support and resources required as a result- for each device. Their support costs basically double- a reason for VZW slowness for releasing updates. Business equals dollars. Supporting devices at a slower retire rate is a money drain, since no ROI for devices no longer being sold in retail.

On the bright side, Google stated that after 3.0, the releases will slow down and expected to be "about" yearly, by 2012. This assumes all of the fragmentation of hardware slows down......

 

[killadanny]

If my phone and service are stable im good, if my phone receives an update and the phone and service are still stable im good.

 

[jamor]

We're annoyed, sure, but when we all get our updates all this "anger" will go away and it will be forgotten. There will be no backlash, and in the end, we're actually happy deep down inside that Verizon is going the extra mile to test these releases so we don't get buggy updates.

In short, chill out.

Sorry Slink, gotta disagree with you. As soon as 2.2 gets pushed, the anger over wanting 3.0 begins.

Yea gotta agree with batjeeper. It's a never ending cycle.

3.0 comes out just after an official 2.2 OTA is released to us.

 

[Medion]

So what happens when a service provider (i.e. Verizon) feverishly releases multiple Android-powered devices without the resources or competence to properly support them?

How can an organization of their size and depth not conduct the due diligence to realize that marketing, selling, and supporting Android devices is not the same as selling new BlackBerry 8330s?

If we, as Android owners, were content with the shit OS that RIM offers, we would all be punching away on archaic devices with no HTML support.

Instead, we're punching away on state-of-the-art devices with no vendor support. I am not sure which is worse.

I predict a brewing storm for Verizon and, for that matter, Sprint and others who lackadaisically and sluggishly provide software and hardware support for these devices. Many Android devices are running 1GHz processors because we end users are not inherently patient and we like snappiness. Too bad the snappiness only exists in our phones.

Verizon is actually doing the exact opposite of what you're concerned about. You think Verizon is being lax about this? They're actually being very diligent. Getting an Android update takes multiple steps.

First, Google has to send it to open-source. 2.2 went open-source in May.

Secondly, HTC has to complete their version (integrated Sense and other tweaks). They seemed to complete their initial versions for both the Incredible and Evo in mid-July.

Lastly, the carrier has to approve the update. We've seen two approaches. Sprint rubber-stamped it, and it's been bug-laden. Verizon kicked it back, and has continually retested it. Unlike EVO users, we're going to get a much more stable and polished release.

Between Google's release, HTC's packaging, and the carrier's tweaks and testing, you should expect a 6-month development cycle. That means the target date for the Incredible update should be November, which is very much in line with HTC's original projection in May of "by end of 2010." The fact that we're looking at getting it by end of August or sometime in September is actually an excellent accomplishment for both HTC and Verizon.

Sorry, but you don't just snap your fingers and have an instant OS update.

 

[Nsane1]

Dude, I've been waiting 5 years for polyphony digital to release Gran Turismo 5. A few months for Froyo is a breeze.

 

[Stam2000]

OP i feel like the steps for Froyo (if that is what you are talking about) go Google, HTC, Verizon.

Whose to say HTC, with Sense, isn't what is holding all of this up. Why wouldn't Verizon want to advertise this as a 2.2 device, like the others launching. The DINC is a pivotal part of their marketing campaign. You have the jumbotron (X), the hard keyboard (D2) and the soft keyboard (DINC). All but the DINC are 2.2.

I think its HTC and Sense that is holding this up, not so much Verizon.

Then how does the Evo and Desire already have 2.2?

 

[SynisterWolf]

Sorry Slink, gotta disagree with you. As soon as 2.2 gets pushed, the anger over wanting 3.0 begins.

+1 people need to relax and just wait. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO GET THE OTA 2.2 ANY QUICKER..... on that note. lets all drink and be marry.