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dibblebill

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I love how the biker's family is painting themselves as the victim, here. You can clearly see where they were aggressively trying to push around other cars, drivers, going into oncoming traffic, things like that, and tried to stop the Land Rover when the initial driver got bumped. THen they attack him and his family in their SUV and he flees (would YOU wait for the infamously slow-to-respond NYC police?) and hits one. They then, in front of his wife and kids, rather than tend to their friend, attack and beat him.

I'm sorry, I'm not feeling any sympathy for "Meezee", as some call him.
 
Well first of all if you got something serious in NYC police is there within 3 min. Although I had friends waiting for cops to come and make a report for a minor car accident for 3 hours.

If you want to block the roads, you need a special permit for that. The need to have SAG support as well.

There were bunch of hotshots on bikes and officials said there were more than 200 calls regarding their reckless riding. I'm not surprised it happened in NYC. This city itself is like a huge mental institution. They are lucky to have only one guy running their mob over.
 
No sympathy for the bikers at all. They had a mob mentality and thought they were untouchable because there were so many of them. The guy had his wife and kid with him and felt threatened. I don't blame him for driving through whatever got in his way.
 
As a biker in the UK, and having been on several runs with thousands of other bikers.....I came across the video of this incident on the Facebook bikers page, and the general consensus at first was that it was shocking and terrible of the car driver, however after the air cleared and the anger of seeing something like that feel away, it was realised that there was in fact no need for the mob mentality of those aholes that just happened to be on motorbikes rather than cars etc.

The bike shouldn't have slowed like that, it's his own fault, the driver shouldn't have driven away the way he did however I certainly don't blame him as he was protecting his family from a gang of aholes....not BIKERS!

bikers that I've spent my life around, wave or nod when other bikes pass on the road, they stop and offer help and assistance to other road users, particularly other bikers, yes they may speed and filter(perfectly legal and acceptable over here!, filtering through lanes of traffic!) But generally they are nice people who do Easter egg runs to give chocolate and funds to sick kids hospitals, pet food runs to donate food and money for animal shelters, toy runs at Christmas for children's homes....the list could go on and these things certainly happen all over Britain,I don't know so much about America, but over here, those people just happened to be a gang on bikes not bikers!
 
There are more interesting things:
A) Biker who got run over by SUV had a suspended driver license in Massachusetts until 2017. He had a long criminal record as well. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/03/edwin-mieses-jr-biker-injured-in-suv-melee-was-unlicensed/
B)They already arrested 2 suspects involved in beating SUV driver.
C)There was an undercover cop in mob of cyclists near SUV while the incident with SUV driver occurred. In fact they are saying that there were quite a few off duty cops who drove that day in that huge pack. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...bikers-beat-range-rover-driver-officials?lite
D)apparently bikers slashed Range Rover front right wheels so he was running away on a flat tire http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/endofchase.jpg
E)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INfElroIKO0 at 2:47 you see the tire flying off the SUV. At 4:44 you see SUV mirror missing.

There are more things to come, and it's not looking pretty for bikers


Put yourself into this SUV. You get bullied on the road and get pushed to stop your car. Then 10+ bikers start yelling/cursing at you, beating and scratching your car. Wife starts to yell. Kid starts to cry. What are your actions? You can not really blame the man, he was pushed into committing crime, go after bikers who started it all. If he really wanted to hurt bikers he had plenty of chances during 4 mile chase but he didn't. It was a spontaneous self defense. But SUV driver hurt a person badly, it does not excuse him. He deservesconditional sentence and some community hours at least.
 
sntaylor said:
As a biker in the UK, and having been on several runs with thousands of other bikers.....I came across the video of this incident on the Facebook bikers page, and the general consensus at first was that it was shocking and terrible of the car driver, however after the air cleared and the anger of seeing something like that feel away, it was realised that there was in fact no need for the mob mentality of those aholes that just happened to be on motorbikes rather than cars etc.

The bike shouldn't have slowed like that, it's his own fault, the driver shouldn't have driven away the way he did however I certainly don't blame him as he was protecting his family from a gang of aholes....not BIKERS!

bikers that I've spent my life around, wave or nod when other bikes pass on the road, they stop and offer help and assistance to other road users, particularly other bikers, yes they may speed and filter(perfectly legal and acceptable over here!, filtering through lanes of traffic!) But generally they are nice people who do Easter egg runs to give chocolate and funds to sick kids hospitals, pet food runs to donate food and money for animal shelters, toy runs at Christmas for children's homes....the list could go on and these things certainly happen all over Britain,I don't know so much about America, but over here, those people just happened to be a gang on bikes not bikers!
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I totally agree, most bikers are good people, I'm friends with a lot of them. This group got carried away, who knows how many people they terrorized before this incident. Hopefully people don't assume all bikers are bad because of this one unruly mob.
 
Gmash said:
I totally agree, most bikers are good people, I'm friends with a lot of them. This group got carried away, who knows how many people they terrorized before this incident. Hopefully people don't assume all bikers are bad because of this one unruly mob.
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There are many bikers who ride it like a car. They do not travel in between cars they do not cut anyone off, they just cruise around and they even stand in traffic like the rest of us. I also have seen crazy stunts pulled by many motorcyclists, have seen few crashes due to the stunts (few were quite amusing to be honest). I've knows a few packs of bikers who have cops with them riding and who ride at extreme speeds and when they get pulled over they get tickets for doing 70 in 65 mph zone just because they have cop with them.

I personally think that there are quite way too many folks, especially if you look at the age younger than 30, who are not suppose to be riding bikes
 
Honestly, the problem isn't bikers, it's groups that fancy themselves as being above the law like this one. If the Land Rover really wanted, he could've taken out a lot more than one.
 
dibblebill said:
Honestly, the problem isn't bikers, it's groups that fancy themselves as being above the law like this one. If the Land Rover really wanted, he could've taken out a lot more than one.
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there are more videos from that ride and simular things happened before same day. Search "7 videos bikers did not want you to see". They stopped Prius same way and broke its mirrors.
You are right that he could have taken out more than one of he wanted. All that SUV driver wanted is to get out of there.
 
I'm not siding with anyone but for every ending their is a beginning and somewhere on that road that land rover did or cause something we did not see. The media is deceitful and misleading. It's seem to like road rage from both parties and the suv driver is no saint.
 
this story should make one thing very clear to us all.......... motorcycles kill people..... we need some stricter motorcycle laws..... background checks..... possible banning of certain types of motorycycles such as those with 2 wheels or motors.....this is a dangerous weapon and should be dealt with swiftly
 
Bnice said:
I'm not siding with anyone but for every ending their is a beginning and somewhere on that road that land rover did or cause something we did not see. The media is deceitful and misleading. It's seem to like road rage from both parties and the suv driver is no saint.
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Right. So if he cut someone off 20 miles back, that justifies a glorified gang (lets face it, that's what they are), who, mind you, is ONLY out to show off and to harass people, trying to intimidate him, force him to slow down, then attack him when they get bumped after doing something that's dangerous even on a less crowded freeway? And then its road rage because he attempted to escape the gang?
 
dibblebill said:
Right. So if he cut someone off 20 miles back, that justifies a glorified gang (lets face it, that's what they are), who, mind you, is ONLY out to show off and to harass people, trying to intimidate him, force him to slow down, then attack him when they get bumped after doing something that's dangerous even on a less crowded freeway? And then its road rage because he attempted to escape the gang?
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Were you there? Why don't we all get mad and run folks over and cripple them. Oh wait lets go around and shoot up our work place and blame the boss and workers because we mad things are not going our way. So the under cover cops that was there are thugs and gangs according to your thoughts. Go learn to think for yourself and stop being brain wash by a video that shows a one sided view.
 
Bnice said:
Were you there? Why don't we all get mad and run folks over and cripple them. Oh wait lets go around and shoot up our work place and blame the boss and workers because we mad things are not going our way. So the under cover cops that was there are thugs and gangs according to your thoughts. Go learn to think for yourself and stop being brain wash by a video that shows a one sided view.
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If someone is threatening my life, and beating me up, beating my car, threatning my safety, I will defend myself. Its that simple. There are more than one video out there, more than a few interviews, and hundreds of witnesses.

Its one thing if they'd surrounded the Land Rover and left him alone, just unable to move- then I"d say he was unjustified. But when they're on camera destroying his car and putting his life and his kid's life in danger? I don't blame him.

If those cops participated in that event and did nothing, then yes, they are part of the gang and acted as thugs.

I note that nobody's brought up the complete opposite reaction the event first had, BEFORE the group's prior actions were brought up- when the event was just "LAND ROVER RUNS DOWN BIKER", before the rest of the shit hit the fan.
 
Talking about road rage...

Why do the majority of people assume to know and impose their own views down other people throats without attempting to understand the real facts first ?

This is your way of forum rage.

First of all, the media broadcast on this matter is totally and completely biased to only portray one side of this story.

From the footage I saw, I understand that this bikers were doing a fun ride with intentions to pull out some illegal bike stunts on the road.

As they found a perfect stretch of road to start the stunts they encountered the SUV cruising at a real slow pace in the middle lane. At this point one of the bikers signaled the driver to move faster or out of the way. The SUV could have speed up or just slow down even more but he didn't.
After that this same biker moved ahead and lined itself with the other bikers for the basic pit maneuver to slow down the traffic and got bumped because the SUV driver had better things to do than to use the brakes.

Than shit hit the fan.
And the behavior from the bikers was disgusting but the SUV driver was as disgusting in the same way.
No one should escape unpunished in this unfortunate misunderstand between stubborn idiots.

The family's of this people are the real victims.

:sly: What I learned from this story is that Rage Rover owners can be a deadly force on the road.
 
Bnice said:
Were you there? Why don't we all get mad and run folks over and cripple them. Oh wait lets go around and shoot up our work place and blame the boss and workers because we mad things are not going our way. So the under cover cops that was there are thugs and gangs according to your thoughts. Go learn to think for yourself and stop being brain wash by a video that shows a one sided view.
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As it was noted in some article I read. "If someone cut you off or cause a road rage, you need to write their plates and report it to the police" So if Land Rover driver is not a saint they should have reported him. End of story. Also if he wanted to run more of them over, he had more than 100 chances. I really don't think that wealthy man in SUV with his WIFE and 2 year old would want to start a road rage. It's 200% bikers fault, even if SUV driver did something wrong, bikers taking matters into their own hands cancels out his fault.

Video delivers both side view that why it's a video. Story can deliver one side view. SUV driver is guilty, but under this circumstances it's less of his fault of what happened.

If cop witness a crime, no matter if they are off duty or not they do not have to engage, but they have to report it, especially something that serious like running someone over. None of undercover cops said a word for a few days, but when they felt that sh*t will soon hit the fan they started talking.
 
Smokey Mc Pot said:
Talking about road rage...

Why do the majority of people assume to know and impose their own views down other people throats without attempting to understand the real facts first ?

This is your way of forum rage.

First of all, the media broadcast on this matter is totally and completely biased to only portray one side of this story.

From the footage I saw, I understand that this bikers were doing a fun ride with intentions to pull out some illegal bike stunts on the road.

As they found a perfect stretch of road to start the stunts they encountered the SUV cruising at a real slow pace in the middle lane. At this point one of the bikers signaled the driver to move faster or out of the way. The SUV could have speed up or just slow down even more but he didn't.
After that this same biker moved ahead and lined itself with the other bikers for the basic pit maneuver to slow down the traffic and got bumped because the SUV driver had better things to do than to use the brakes.

Than shit hit the fan.
And the behavior from the bikers was disgusting but the SUV driver was as disgusting in the same way.
No one should escape unpunished in this unfortunate misunderstand between stubborn idiots.

The family's of this people are the real victims.

:sly: What I learned from this story is that Rage Rover owners can be a deadly force on the road.
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The Footage That the NYC Bikers Didn't Want You to See (7 more!) UPDATED

It's a video from the same ride.
Bikers can not block lanes if they have no permit for an event and no police support. If they did not start crap with SUV driver this all could have been avoided. Nobody would have been beat up, or anyone would be at hospital in coma. So I do not blame 1 driver, but I blame 30 people who have no brains to prevent crude behavior.

Your side of the story is as illegal fantasy. So they were trying to kick slow SUV from the road so they could do stunts. Do you even realize what you just wrote?

Basic physics says that lighter objects have less kinetic energy and could be stopped much faster, Land Rover is a huge car and he could not slow down fast enough because it has more kinetic energy. Have you noticed that that biker was looking back when he was slowing down. He wanted to get hit, he wanted to get into conflict.

If media story is so biased, why there were no charges pressed against the SUV driver?
 
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