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THOUGHTS ON MICROSOFT ENDING SUPPORT FOR WINDOWS 10

brianzion

brianzion

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what's your views on windows 10 support ending this October if your computer does not meet the requirements of Windows 11
 
LINUX - it's not as geeky as a lot of people think it is... in fact, there are plenty of distros like Linux Mint and Ubuntu that allow Windows users to feel comfortable out of the box. I wiped Windows from my last computer in February and haven't looked back, installing Kubuntu (which is a flavor of Ubuntu with the gorgeous KDE Plasma desktop) on both my laptop and desktop. I have very seldom had to access the command line... when I did, there's a plethora of support out there. Linux drives over 95% of internet servers and over 5% of personal computers.

The best parts are (a) Linux is FOSS (Free Open-Source Software) so it costs nothing and thousands of eyes are watching the code for any bad stuff; (b) unlike Windows 11 and its 1000 page terms and conditions, you retain complete control over your computer, your data, and what updates and when; (c) unlike Windows, there are MANY versions of Linux, so you can choose the one that works best for you and your uses; and (d) Linux runs much leaner than Windows, requiring fewer resources and running on even old computers with limited RAM and drive storage.
 
Milo Willamson said:
They refused to upgrade my system!
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Yet another reason to despise Microsoft: the vague and arbitrary "requirements" to even install Windows 11 are forcing perfectly good PCs into the landfills, creating unknown tons of unnecessary e-waste. The Darling Bride's Windows 10 laptop was eligible for extended update support, so it's okay for another year. In the meantime, we'll likely just sell it and let someone else ruin it with Win 11.
 
The_Chief said:
Yet another reason to despise Microsoft: the vague and arbitrary "requirements" to even install Windows 11 are forcing perfectly good PCs into the landfills, creating unknown tons of unnecessary e-waste. The Darling Bride's Windows 10 laptop was eligible for extended update support, so it's okay for another year. In the meantime, we'll likely just sell it and let someone else ruin it with Win 11.
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I meant like my comp people though, really another year?
 
It happens every couple of cycles.

I think it's a little ironic that people complain about having to buy a new laptop (lots of desktop style PCs can be upgraded) because it can't be upgraded to the new version, but no one seems to complain when you have to chuck your phone every few years because it can no longer be updated.

I just bought a replacement laptop as my old Lenovo won't run Win11. But that laptop started life with Win7 and has been on 10 for some time. It's at least 15 years old. In that time I've been through at least five cell phones.

I'll still use the old Lenovo because it's running software I don't want to buy again. I just won't connect it to the Internet and will use a flash drive to transfer files back and forth.
 
rootabaga said:
It happens every couple of cycles.

I think it's a little ironic that people complain about having to buy a new laptop (lots of desktop style PCs can be upgraded) because it can't be upgraded to the new version, but no one seems to complain when you have to chuck your phone every few years because it can no longer be updated.

I just bought a replacement laptop as my old Lenovo won't run Win11. But that laptop started life with Win7 and has been on 10 for some time. It's at least 15 years old. In that time I've been through at least five cell phones.

I'll still use the old Lenovo because it's running software I don't want to buy again. I just won't connect it to the Internet and will use a flash drive to transfer files back and forth.
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I am in the same windows build, the tmp is shut off, and I do not want to search it on my ASUS bios again and see what they did..

That and a few middle ones, I forgot about it, my sister was also looking at this too.
 
I upgraded from 10 to 11 awhile back.

If your going to do this be aware there are changes that you have no control over.

The forced security updates that can not be rolled back is just one, ok if it plays nice, it can Blue Screen you though, been there twice already.
Most of the updates ching a la the realtek Gaming Controller and my Ethernet will not connect, then I have to play install a new driver uninstall it cause it did not work install another new driver ...etc.

Beside the BSOD this is a pain it the ass and I can not stop it from happening.

Also be aware if you use the System Restore feature going to 11 will stop it from storing more than a months of rollbacks now instead of unlimited rollback points that 10 allowed !


There are more changes, but these are off the top of my "do not like" list. (the right clik button options are really fubarred now, takes 3 steps to do what 1 step did in W10)

To check if you can upgrade to Windows 11, download and run the official PC Health Check app from Microsoft.

This app will analyze your computer's hardware and tell you whether it meets the minimum system requirements for Windows 11, providing specific reasons if it doesn't.

You can also find a banner in your Windows Update settings that may link to a hardware requirement check, or you can check your PC's eligibility by going to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update and selecting "Check for updates"
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ozonetrooper said:
I upgraded from 10 to 11 awhile back.

If your going to do this be aware there are changes that you have no control over.

The forced security updates that can not be rolled back is just one, ok if it plays nice, it can Blue Screen you though, been there twice already.
Most of the updates ching a la the realtek Gaming Controller and my Ethernet will not connect, then I have to play install a new driver uninstall it cause it did not work install another new driver ...etc.

Beside the BSOD this is a pain it the ass and I can not stop it from happening.

Also be aware if you use the System Restore feature going to 11 will stop it from storing more than a months of rollbacks now instead of unlimited rollback points that 10 allowed !


There are more changes, but these are off the top of my "do not like" list. (the right clik button options are really fubarred now, takes 3 steps to do what 1 step did in W10)
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Already cycled my Blue Screen of death before I put it to the shop keep, I am not going to let massive trojan or malwear in this new machine!!!!
 
Worse is the term that, while you retain ownership of your data, Microsoft can use it anyway they want, anytime, anywhere, into perpetuity without credit or compensation. As long as that data is stored or transmitted by anything Microsoft-related, you agree to let them do that. Of course, every file and image stored in OneDrive or Outlook is data-mined to oblivion to build a "more personalized experience" (aka "a consumer profile so detailed, so intimate, that most people would have a heart attack if they ever saw it").

That was what sealed the deal for me: I moved all our files off OneDrive and onto our own Synology NAS; and told Microsoft to stuff it. And I don't miss it at all.
 
The_Chief said:
Worse is the term that, while you retain ownership of your data, Microsoft can use it anyway they want, anytime, anywhere, into perpetuity without credit or compensation. As long as that data is stored or transmitted by anything Microsoft-related, you agree to let them do that. Of course, every file and image stored in OneDrive or Outlook is data-mined to oblivion to build a "more personalized experience" (aka "a consumer profile so detailed, so intimate, that most people would have a heart attack if they ever saw it").

That was what sealed the deal for me: I moved all our files off OneDrive and onto our own Synology NAS; and told Microsoft to stuff it. And I don't miss it at all.
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I deleted one drive on my p,c, I do not use outlook at all. Why is everyone want to sell my everything on my data these days?
 
OneDrive is the biggest POS I have ever dealt with. It is disabled on my machine.

What is the talking assistant thingy called, that is also disabled.

What is this Outlook you speak of ?


sneer
 
Milo Willamson said:
Why is everyone want to sell my everything on my data these days?
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MONEY. Here's an example:

You email your parents a photo of yourself and two friends while on vacation, using Microsoft's Outlook email service. The photo wasn't stored in OneDrive... but because it was transmitted through Microsoft's servers, Microsoft's computer systems analyzed the photo. Soon enough, Microsoft was able to determine:
  • Where you were and when - either by the metadata or landmarks in the photo, to the date and approximate time. Travel a lot? They'll know
  • Who you were with - using facial recognition or data in the email. This information is then cross-referenced to update all three consumer profiles
  • What everyone was wearing - got that hot new designer jacket? The newest Hey Dude shoes? Noted: and more ads for those brands will show up
Every minute detail is captured, analyzed and the data is sold to whoever has the money to buy it.
 
The_Chief said:
MONEY. Here's an example:

You email your parents a photo of yourself and two friends while on vacation, using Microsoft's Outlook email service. The photo wasn't stored in OneDrive... but because it was transmitted through Microsoft's servers, Microsoft's computer systems analyzed the photo. Soon enough, Microsoft was able to determine:
  • Where you were and when - either by the metadata or landmarks in the photo, to the date and approximate time. Travel a lot? They'll know
  • Who you were with - using facial recognition or data in the email. This information is then cross-referenced to update all three consumer profiles
  • What everyone was wearing - got that hot new designer jacket? The newest Hey Dude shoes? Noted: and more ads for those brands will show up
Every minute detail is captured, analyzed and the data is sold to whoever has the money to buy it.
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No wonder my mother's windows 11 has pop up ads all the time..

Another reason I will not go to windows 11 though -- well not just yet.
 
The_Chief said:
LINUX - it's not as geeky as a lot of people think it is... in fact, there are plenty of distros like Linux Mint and Ubuntu that allow Windows users to feel comfortable out of the box. I wiped Windows from my last computer in February and haven't looked back, installing Kubuntu (which is a flavor of Ubuntu with the gorgeous KDE Plasma desktop) on both my laptop and desktop. I have very seldom had to access the command line... when I did, there's a plethora of support out there. Linux drives over 95% of internet servers and over 5% of personal computers.
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I'll give another vote for LINUX. 👍 I've not had a Windows system since Vista back in 2008. For a while now I've been using MX Linux on a Macbook Air, after Apple stopped supporting it with updates. I'm using the KDE Plasma desktop, and very happy with it.
 
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No wonder my mother's windows 11 has pop up ads all the time..
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Kan't blame Winblows, that sounds like no/the wrong protection.

Besides using three protection "apps" I have three add-ons on my Firefox browser and never see any pop ups - ads or whatever they are. I have to allow sites to open a pop up when they use that method for moving forward on the site.

UBlock Origin
Ghostery
AdBlock

SuperAnti Spyware
Spybot-Search and Destroy
Eset Internet Security

And of course the Windows Firewall and the modem firewall ...

What is the pop up you speak of ?

sneer
 
ozonetrooper said:
Kan't blame Winblows, that sounds like no/the wrong protection.

Besides using three protection "apps" I have three add-ons on my Firefox browser and never see any pop ups - ads or whatever they are. I have to allow sites to open a pop up when they use that method for moving forward on the site.

UBlock Origin
Ghostery
AdBlock

SuperAnti Spyware
Spybot-Search and Destroy
Eset Internet Security

And of course the Windows Firewall and the modem firewall ...

What is the pop up you speak of ?

sneer
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I also have Ublock Orgin, Ghostery and Adblock with.. Privacy Badger on this machine,

Hahaaa, what is a pop up, the only thing I do get is every once a while from crap cleaner for my windblows.
 
This was the ONLY way to use Windows 11 without setting up an online account and seeking Microsoft's permission to do anything on one's own computer... and now they've removed it. All I can say is THANK HEAVEN FOR LINUX!

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There is always rufus walk around, I am still wondering what kind of buffed up security the shop guys put on this.. I cannot get into my wireless settings of imputing my wifi password if I needed to, but there was a work around, I did not put it in a spell ago after factory data resetting my cell again like a few days or so back.
 
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