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Work Tablet

Dolos

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The administrator for my Tab has the ability to record audio, record video, and take pics at ANY time. The permisions are definately there in system apps, and Device admin app.

My Question is
Can data upload/download useage or app spefic battery useage be hidden or altered and differ from a nonAdmin View?
Im assuming the folders/files would be easy??

1st time seeing Admin on android

Thanks in advance
 
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So the problem is that you are concerned that this device might spy on you via the camera/mic, rather than that they can monitor your activity while using the device? The obvious solution is that you turn it off when not using it - if they have a problem with that then you don't want to be working for these people. I'm assuming that this is an employer-supplied device used only for work purposes (I'd not have anything of my own on a device which an employer was able to monitor).

The short answer is "yes", any recordings could be stored in the "private" data of an app, which unless you have root access you won't be able to see other than via that app itself (and I assume they don't let you go into whatever app it is and fiddle with it). There's nothing special here, that statement is true of any app at all, e.g. your web browser stores data this way, your Settings app stores data this way, etc. Your camera app stores images in the "public" storage because you want other apps to be able to see them (e.g. gallery apps), but most apps store most of their data where only that app can access it.

Data transfer being hidden would require a deliberate effort (whereas placing recordings where you can see them would require choosing to do that), and would require altering the system. But I'm not going to be rash enough to exclude the possibility: I've never used an Android app where someone else was administering it, so have never had the chance to poke about and see what they do.

Of course I would assume that there are legal limits on their ability to use such facilities, if you can show that they were doing it.
 
So the problem is that you are concerned that this device might spy on you via the camera/mic, rather than that they can monitor your activity while using the device? The obvious solution is that you turn it off when not using it - if they have a problem with that then you don't want to be working for these people. I'm assuming that this is an employer-supplied device used only for work purposes (I'd not have anything of my own on a device which an employer was able to monitor).

The short answer is "yes", any recordings could be stored in the "private" data of an app, which unless you have root access you won't be able to see other than via that app itself (and I assume they don't let you go into whatever app it is and fiddle with it). There's nothing special here, that statement is true of any app at all, e.g. your web browser stores data this way, your Settings app stores data this way, etc. Your camera app stores images in the "public" storage because you want other apps to be able to see them (e.g. gallery apps), but most apps store most of their data where only that app can access it.

Data transfer being hidden would require a deliberate effort (whereas placing recordings where you can see them would require choosing to do that), and would require altering the system. But I'm not going to be rash enough to exclude the possibility: I've never used an Android app where someone else was administering it, so have never had the chance to poke about and see what they do.

Of course I would assume that there are legal limits on their ability to use such facilities, if you can show that they were doing it.
I really appreciate your response Hadron
Pretty much what I figured
 
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If what you want to do covertly is something that needs privacy, you probably shouldn't even bother trying to do it on a monitored work mobile device. It's by intent set up to be curated, and depending on the complexity of the MDM (Mobile Device Management) your company uses and the skill level of its IT department the likelihood you'll be able to successfully be able to bypass those security measures isn't going to be as trivial as you see in the movies and TV shows.
I'd recommend you just buy your own tablet, it's a big enough project just locking down your own gadgets that aren't set up with MDM.
 
Actually I assumed that the problem was a simple privacy concern: having a device in your home which could allow the employer to listen in or take a peek whenever they feel like it, and therefore wanting to know whether there was a way of checking whether they were (ab)using those capabilities.
 
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