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Would you buy an Unbrickable Android Phone / Device?

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Would you buy such a device?

  • YES (But only at a reasonable price tag...)

    Votes: 2 100.0%

  • Naah - I can't even keep bread on the table and I have no idea what x86 means (Nope and don't care!)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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I believe there is seriously a big market for a device that is completely unbrickable!


It would need to be unbrickable and would definitely be for extreme tech / byte heads. A removable internal SD that can be easily swapped out for a much larger one - expandable ram (only tablet pc though as a phone would be maybe technically impossible unless a smaller ubiquitous RAM standard would be created for the mobile sector) :)

It is very easy to make an unbreakable Android device. Even if the user messes up the BIOS / Boot loader there must be a very easy way for the user to very quickly (and extremely easily) return the device to stock factory settings via downloadable software.

I think there would be a huge demand for such a device as many tech head enthusiasts would love to get their hands on such an awesome machine.

Also go with Intel / x86 - 64 Bit architecture from the get go as I would demand that anything can be installed on it not just Android OS customizations. ARM support for Windows I think is very dodgy (could very easily be wrong though :D) so if one wanted to you could easily install Windows onto your tablet PC without any performance issues or compatibility issues.

The Atom serious I think would be the best bet for battery and performance (and multi OS) compatibility. Or whatever the best CPU for battery, performance AND multiple OS support (this is an absolute must!).

I don't know why manufacturers have not made such a device yet they must be on drugs?

I don't know why manufacturers are not happy with customers tinkering THEIR devices... strange I think :)

You more than likely won't even have to bother with keeping it up to date (this will reduce costs as there would be no need for a massive software maintenance team) as you want to encourage open source / community development.

Imagine if you could install anything you wanted to and NEVER have to worry about bricking your device... how awesome would this be? :)

Maybe I am out of my mind lol but hopefully I am not alone just wondering how many people would want something like this :)

I would want something like this for sure!

Maybe call it the "Hack Mi" or something like that lol might be a lame name :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

lol I dunno what name to give it but maybe something a bit more snazzy - maybe the "Cryptek" or the "Cypher"?

Something that attracts all the tech heads of the world make their dreams come true! :)
 
Daniel Fernandes said:
I was wishing for a removal internal storage just yesterday. Coincidence?
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I think this would be a big hit! :D

Put a lot of big smiles on a lot of unhappy customer's faces :D

I would love such a device!

Removable battery - and if it is a tablet pc it will definitely have removable ram to make it even more future proof!

Also have a standard laptop pc type based removable cpu (only for the tablet PC version I don't know if this is technically achievable / possible on a cellphone sized machine) so you can REALLY upgrade it in the future if you want to! :D

Future proof galore!

Give it some serious legs for the long run! :D

Basically just make it a super easily upgraded machine that can seriously be future proof :D

I am quite sure / confident that there is a large market for this?


I am sure this would be a big hit :D
 
mikedt said:
X86 maybe, but I don't think they'd be much of a market for a mobile phone that requires fan cooling and has a 3-4 hour battery life. And as for ARM, well Microsoft has already tried that a few times and failed, like Windows Phone, Windows RT, etc.
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Very good point lol XD :D

But making it unbrickable I think will be extremely desirable in the modding community ;)

And having a removable internal SD should be extremely easy and inexpensive to do (and people will love it I am sure!). I am sure this would turn a lot of heads and get a lot of attention / interest but yes not make it too powerful so it would only have a 10 second battery life - that would be a disaster! :D

You are right - too much power with a fan will destroy battery life. :D

But I think an unbrickable phone would be a huge hit in the enthusiast's sphere and might get a hell of a lot of attention :D
 
No. If I don't like the mfg's crap all over the phone nor the carrier's crap, I'd take the chance and root.

I can afford most of the services. I don't WANT the damn services. The calling and text has to work, and the phone has to have enough capacity and storage to run all my nature and astronomy apps.
 
Making the internal storage removable is easy. Doing so while maintaining speed and reliability, in a compact and easily accessible package, at low cost, is more difficult. The question is, some custom bus and package (Project Ara style, expensive if it doesn't get mass take-up) or rely on microSD (cheap, slow, unreliable)?

Either way, you'd probably just want the user part of the storage to be swappable, and it's probably best to have a technique for copying the existing data to the new module before swapping (ideally retaining encryption, if you don't want to produce a massive security hole).

But that's probably the easy bit, since only requires simple and relatively slow connections. For other things like SoC and RAM you probably need an Ara-like solution. Even if a multi-pin package plus a socket that allowed you to safely insert and remove the SoC wasn't too large (which I'm pretty sure it would be) it wouldn't let you swap SoCs unless they were completely pin-compatible. So I'd think you'd have more chance, and more options, if instead you had a processor daughtercard with a standardised interface, say some dedicated connections plus a bus for connecting to a range of different peripherals (if this device isn't going to be a one-off you need to allow some flexibility). As I say, this begins to look like Ara. Of course each different SoC would need a daughtercard and control/interface chips designed for it, so this would be an expensive solution unless it became mass-market rather than an enthusiast product. RAM is simpler, but even then you maximise speed and reliability by soldering it and minimise latency by putting it close to the SoC, so separating this stuff into user-replaceable packages will I'm sure have performance costs (so we're aiming at enthusiasts who value flexibility more).

I think there's probably a reason why Google weren't able to make a go of Ara. I don't think this is as easy as it sounds, and would need a lot of resources behind it.
 
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