Some of you points point to your belief that the poor shouldn't pro-create, and while I find that kinda hurtful and hateful I suppose there is at least a kind of economic logic to your argument.
But many of your points have nothing to do with finance; you talk about where the man doesn't want the child, "...then ****ing kill it..."; you say rapists "...aren't getting away..." with regards abortion of their child, but you refuse to clarify what you meant; you say that a man should have an equal vote in the decision to abort, but that his vote counts for nothing.
Nobody gets pregnant alone, the responsibility is shared and I don't think that a man should be absolved of that responsibility simply because he chooses to be. Think it through smacky, do you think it'd be okay to walk away from a mother with a child aged 1year old, and not expect the man to provide any financial assistance? because there's no difference in what you advocating, except that you're 'forcing' a mother to either accept sole responsibility or to abort what could be a perfectly viable and wanted child on economic grounds that she may not have foreseen.
His vote counts more for himself rather than the child. Having the child has potential to ruin three lives: the woman and man who can't support it, and then the baby's who will live in poverty. If there is a solution to this problem and it isn't chosen, then why don't the people or the person involved in making the decision suffer for it? If the man says "I can't support it" but the woman says "I don't care, we're having it," doesn't that seem a bit unfair to you? For both the child and the man?
If the man says he wants it, and the woman doesn't, we'll say for the same reason the man didn't want it in the above scenario, it seems unfair for both sides if it goes in favor of one over the other. But doesn't that still prevent a child raised in an non-ideal household?
My argument is not really geared to the rich or poor. It's more so for the average person. I'm not saying poor people shouldn't procreate. Plenty of people live in poverty and still live their lives. I guess my focus is more for people my age, in their teens and early-twenties. When a 16 year old dad and 16 year old mom are at a crossroads. Sure, they were both needed in order for the conception to happen, but again, they're 16. Can they support the child the way a more financially stable couple (and assumably older couple) would?
In this case, if either one of the parents are smart, will they not say "I'm not mature enough to be a parent, nor do I have the money. Let's not have the kid and be careful next time?" If the mom thinks that the child will be ok, but the father doesn't, is it fair he still has to support it? It's one thing if the child is already born. It's there. But if it's only a few weeks into the pregnancy? The solution is RIGHT THERE. Have the abortion and make sure it doesn't happen again (the fines and penalties complement this idea). But because the mom wants it, the baby is born and both mother and father are in a tough situation? What am I missing here?
If it's a married couple, I don't know. Separate laws for that may have to be put into place. I'm not married so I can't speak on what married couples have to go through.
I guess with that logic, I've never knocked a girl up accidentally either, so I shouldn't speak on that. But those are my views at this point. And I think it acts upon the fairness of the situation. Too many women use it as a trap for the guy. Conversely, there are instances of rape that lead to unwanted children as well. It isn't fair to the child to grow up knowing they were a result of rape, and it isn't fair for the woman, in addition to being raped, having to see the fruits of the event everyday.
Sometimes what is moral or "the right thing to do", is not always "fair" or "equal."
It's called a police report. In this day and age of women being strong and all that jazz, they should report rape, not sit in a corner and cry about it. The "adult" or "responsible" thing to do would be to contact the authorities and seek help.
