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Im not nearly as well versed in this stuff as you guys..but from what i have seen of the specs/features of these phones they look too similar to be offered in the same store at the same time. Maybe if the incredible has that hideous back cover and has a few multimedia features the N1 doesnt that could separate them more. But for the MOST part these look a lot alike. i cant see the logic offering both phones in stores. Verizon employees are worthless..they probably dont know the N1 is coming so when one of us asks if it will be carried in store they think to themselves, "of course, why wouldn't it be?"
 
Montana Man said:
With Verizon employees likely to be instructed to tell customers that they will need to contact Google for all N1 phone support upon release of that phone, it occurs to me that Verizon has 3 clear-cut options in front of them:

1) Offer the Incredible at the same time as the N1 - as an option to those who want the latest high-end smartphone, but who don't want to have to go through Google for support (which will be most people, I'm betting).

2) Have the ability to offer in-store support on customer's N1 concerns and problems - something that Google probably won't relinquish very readily, as it will be akin to admitting defeat of their "online-only" phone sales & support model. However, Verizon is in a considerably larger position of power than T-Mobile is to better affect the "Google only" precedent. I'm thinking that Verizon will at LEAST have some degree of say in how the products that they sell are serviced - especially if it will result in negative opinions and feedback for them if Google does as poorly as they did with the N1/T-Mobile "trial run," as it were. Seems like an impossible task for Google to get their on-line support network up and running to service an 86-million customer base client just a mere 4 months after they have flopped miserably with a 33-million one.

3) Best option yet, offer both #1 and #2!
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I could see google teaming up with walmart to sale the N1. The walmart employees know about as much on smart phones as the verizon employees. I could see walmart having a live demo unit and small amount in stock, when one is sold then they would have a drop shipment for replacement. The downsize for them offering at any retail unit is sales tax in every state. My last 2 phones I went in to the local verizon store and played with the phone then went home and order over the internet. This was just easier than spending 2 hours in store to get a phone. My experience on buying phones in store is like buying a car, takes half a day.
 
gregg, you are double posting. That was said before. No problem though, just want to keep this thread clean. It will run an identical version of Sense (Sense UI 2.1).
 
vzw+google+htc=:) said:
I could see google teaming up with walmart to sale the N1. The walmart employees know about as much on smart phones as the verizon employees. I could see walmart having a live demo unit and small amount in stock, when one is sold then they would have a drop shipment for replacement. The downsize for them offering at any retail unit is sales tax in every state. My last 2 phones I went in to the local verizon store and played with the phone then went home and order over the internet. This was just easier than spending 2 hours in store to get a phone. My experience on buying phones in store is like buying a car, takes half a day.
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True and remember the "fake page" that showed up on Walmart's website? It looked like Walmart was going to sell the N1 and then Google denied it and Walmart said it was a mistake. How would a fake page get created and launched if Walmart didn't plan to sell it?

Google also denounced the fact they were making a phone and then it appeared 1-2 months later lol, so yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Walmart did sell it
 
bbirch said:
I totally agree given the history of the Droid and Devour launches, what makes the Incredible and NCAA basketball combination so much more appealing is that instead of ONE event, the tournament is 2+ weeks of sporting goodness with cheaper advertising space than either the Superbowl or World Series. They will be hitting their target audience and able to do so multiple times throughout the tournament. That being said, that doesn't mean they need to introduce the Incredible at the beginning of the tournament, but could align the advertising with the elite 8, final 4, and championship game which would lead to a later release date than my (wishful thinking) guess of March 18th. . . .only time will tell! BB
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I love how once people on here say something and people keep commenting and agreeing it is totally believable! lol At first I was thinking, "Nah, everyone is grasping at straws now (me included), no way." But the more I think about it and reading other members comments this makes a lot of sense man haha. Good thinking. I could totally see this and they could do some cool marketing stuff with it!
 
Montana Man said:
With Verizon employees likely to be instructed to tell customers that they will need to contact Google for all N1 phone support upon release of that phone, it occurs to me that Verizon has 3 clear-cut options in front of them:

1) Offer the Incredible at the same time as the N1 - as an option to those who want the latest high-end smartphone, but who don't want to have to go through Google for support (which will be most people, I'm betting).

2) Have the ability to offer in-store support on customer's N1 concerns and problems - something that Google probably won't relinquish very readily, as it will be akin to admitting defeat of their "online-only" phone sales & support model. However, Verizon is in a considerably larger position of power than T-Mobile is to better affect the "Google only" precedent. I'm thinking that Verizon will at LEAST have some degree of say in how the products that they sell are serviced - especially if it will result in negative opinions and feedback for them if Google does as poorly as they did with the N1/T-Mobile "trial run," as it were. Seems like an impossible task for Google to get their on-line support network up and running to service an 86-million customer base client just a mere 4 months after they have flopped miserably with a 33-million one.

3) Best option yet, offer both #1 and #2!
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I like option 3!! Good points in #2! If Google had some issues with T-Mo and now they are going to expand to a much larger customer base, I would think they would want to be ready or have a different way of handling customer service. Hiring someone to oversee telephone customer support probably isn't enough... The last thing Google wants to do is have a repeat of the customer service problems, not to mention, Verizon will most likely be on them if people come in and start complaining. Verizon does not want the negative press or anything ATT could use to flame them.
 
woop said:
I was hoping for the same thing, but i think its more of just informing the employees what to say if a customer asks them about the n1, so that they don't look completely clueless about a product on their network. Plus, if it were sold in stores, and is supposdly going to be released at the end of the month, wouldn't there already be talks of it being in the system?
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Good point. I am going with the Kiosk in store with a sample phone for people to "test" and check out, with the option to order online in store for home delivery. Kind of like the blue Kiosk's in Sears (I used to work at one lol).

I do think there is the possability of N1 accessories sold in VZW's stores though, especially if they have a test N1 in store or a Kiosk or some sort of display.
 
Kappy said:
I like option 3!! Good points in #2! If Google had some issues with T-Mo and now they are going to expand to a much larger customer base, I would think they would want to be ready or have a different way of handling customer service. Hiring someone to oversee telephone customer support probably isn't enough... The last thing Google wants to do is have a repeat of the customer service problems, not to mention, Verizon will most likely be on them if people come in and start complaining. Verizon does not want the negative press or anything ATT could use to flame them.
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I think t-mo was just a testing thing to see how things went. You wouldn't want to start on the number 1 network and it turn out like it did for T-MO. That would have finished google making their own phone. Very good point you made.
 
let's assume both of the phones are released the same day (I'm don't believe it will happen) but if it does, it will make more sense if the N1 is not being sold in the stores or vzw website. If the N1 will be sold by google sales channel maybe they will really come out the same day?
 
Ruben said:
gregg, you are double posting. That was said before. No problem though, just want to keep this thread clean. It will run an identical version of Sense (Sense UI 2.1).
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Sorry, Ruben, and all! I didn't see that video posted here before. My apologies.
 
It's important to note when theorizing on whether Google will do this or that with the N1, that they likely never planned to sell a lot of them. It is not Google's intention to become a big player in phone sales. Google is primarily a data mining company that generates revenue based on ads and selling the information they've collected. Google's model for nearly everything thing they do is to provide it free to the end user (making money on the back end). The N1 is supposed to be a reference type design demonstrating what Android and Google's apps can do on a nice smartphone. I believe it will also allow Google to make OS updates faster for the N1, encouraging other vendors to keep pace with updates for their phones.

So, maybe the N1 will end up being sold by VZW (and maybe not), but I highly doubt the primary reason will be to generate revenue directly from hardware sales.
 
thed0000d said:
i dont understand how this thread has turned into a n1 thread.......
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The lost children of Verizon have been wandering this forum for months, watching and waiting for news of the next superphone messiah to arrive and take away the sins of their carrier.

We've kind of landed here, so a little thread drift is to be expected, IMO. ;)
 
I'll steer clear of the religious symbolism LOL...but I'm waiting for something good, I can't take this anymore...the waiting is taking over my life. If there isn't news of an Incredible release (pun intended) by March 23rd...idk what I would do, jump ship to the N1, thats treason I know, but what is a guy to do?
 
Android&Dom said:
I'll steer clear of the religious symbolism LOL...but I'm waiting for something good, I can't take this anymore...the waiting is taking over my life. If there isn't news of an Incredible release (pun intended) by March 23rd...idk what I would do, jump ship to the N1, thats treason I know, but what is a guy to do?
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Or do you pull off the double back stab with 1 half gainer and get a N1 but then root it and load the Desire Rom onto it?
 
Le0_Br4zUc4 said:
let's assume both of the phones are released the same day (I'm don't believe it will happen) but if it does, it will make more sense if the N1 is not being sold in the stores or vzw website. If the N1 will be sold by google sales channel maybe they will really come out the same day?
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Just the fact that most people who go into a VZW store to get a new phone expect to walk out with one, and the N1 being so similar to the Incredible, will result in 90% of people walking out with the Incredible. The N1 is gonna hurt without in-store sales/support.

Americans are impatient (us Incredible fans on this forum would beg to differ) and I think if VZW gave the choice, on the same release day, for consumers to pick between the Inc. and the N1, I think the Inc. wins.
 
UH Oh!

I know people are complaining about things off topic, and some things are way off topic, and I only want the Incredible, and I enjoy finding and listening about some of those things off topic ( like the Desire videos), and I know I used too many "and"'s,

But I think somethings that are necesary to be off topic about...like maybe this news about Apple suing HTC...

Apple suing phone maker HTC over iPhone patents - Yahoo! Finance=

If I'm wrong about the whole off topic thing, I'll take the punishment I deserve, and....
 
DieselBDC said:
Hey, we saw the same thing at same time.
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But I beat you to it :)

And I don't think it's off topic we are discussing the Incredible, which is an HTC phone, and It's release and I could see how something like this could delay a release of new HTC phones till the the patents are resolved.
 
MrSmoofy said:
But I beat you to it :)

And I don't think it's off topic we are discussing the Incredible, which is an HTC phone, and It's release and I could see how something like this could delay a release of new HTC phones till the the patents are resolved.
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Steve is probably watching this thread right now, thinking *hit I gotta do something... These people are crazy over this phone and Android. lol Okay, probably not, but I will be pissed if this phone gets delayed because of this BS. This could drag out for awhile.
 
From the article:

The ITC is a government agency that investigates claims of unfair trade practices, including patent-infringement. It has the power to order a ban on imports if a violation is found. It typically takes about 15 months to complete investigations once it agrees to look into a complaint.
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Hopefully this means it will take so long to complete the investigation that it will not affect the release of our beloved Incredible.
 
The timing is interesting given the fact the CTIA conference is coming up and the N1 is launching on Verizon soon. I view this as more of an attack on Google's Android OS rather than HTC. It looks like Apple's attempt to slow down Android adoption and by suing HTC they still maintain their "partnership" with Google.
 
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