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[Official] Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE Pre-release thread - Sprint official launch is Saturday, June 2

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Not sure if it was already mentioned, but did anybody notice the dedicated camera button at the bottom left corner of this pic?:

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My eyes aren't deceiving me, right? Looks to me like that was carried over from the EVO 3D.
 
Ok I go my White Unlocked Version of the One X in this morning. I also have the Epic Touch (SII)

I can tell you size wise they are almost Identical.

The one X is a little bit thinner. Also the One X has a very small bezel. Its almost like all screen. One X also a little bit lighter.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28335306/photo 1.JPG


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28335306/photo 3.JPG

Thanks so much for the comparison shots! I guess I'll just have to go in and hold the phone in person before deciding.
 
Not sure if it was already mentioned, but did anybody notice the dedicated camera button at the bottom left corner of this pic?:

htc_evo_one_live_leak_2-580x386.jpg


My eyes aren't deceiving me, right? Looks to me like that was carried over from the EVO 3D.

I have been trying figure out if that is a dedicated camera button or a charging port?
 
It baffles me as to why the kickstand is above the battery. I think it'd look so much better below it(Not to mention it'd allow the kickstand to work in portrait mode). I do however suppose this will be really stable. As for the overall design, I'm fairly confident the retail backing will be different. I honestly can't imagine that two toned backing passing.

I'm assuming the kickstand is in the middle for stability. I hope it's stronger than it looks. The Motorola Photon's kickstand is a Herculean bit of metal that's tough as nails and can support the phone on either side; I hope this is similar. And yes, it looks like it has a camera button!

I do hope they lose the two-tone glossy/matte back. That just looks terrible. Won't stop me from buying it, of course, but it would be nice to have a case only for protection and not to improve the looks. :D

Edit: anyone else think this phone has a weird, unfinished vibe to it due to the surprising amount of dust and flecks of... whatever visible in the pictures (particularly the kickstand closeup)? It almost looks like it just came out of a 3D printer.
 
If anything it will sport the S4 because Tegra 3 currently doesn't support LTE. Either case, the S4 is the better of the two. Quad-core doesn't mean better performance or battery life.
Are there any real benefits at this time for having a quad-core device? And what about any future use of quad-core devices?
 
Are there any real benefits at this time for having a quad-core device? And what about any future use of quad-core devices?

If apps are ever optimized for more than two cores, then yes, there will be great advantages to them. For now, the Tegra 3 and S4 are pretty much on par with each other, except in the graphics department, where the Tegra 3 wins.
 
Thanks for posting the dimensions. Yeah, I just have to hold the phone in person in order to really tell how comfortable it'll be. Based on the international version dimensions, seems like it's less thick and slightly less wide than the Epic Touch 4G, which could make it easier to hold with one hand. Glad I'm going to be holding out until Motorola announces their Sprint phone. That'll give me some time to do size comparison and determine if the move back to HTC will be worth it, now that I'm so used to Motorola.
I'm with you on that. I'm also going to wait. Only difference is I'm waiting to see what Samsung announces with their next flagship. I just hope they announce the GS3 before the next EVO drops in June. Then it will be disicion time!
 
If apps are ever optimized for more than two cores, then yes, there will be great advantages to them. For now, the Tegra 3 and S4 are pretty much on par with each other, except in the graphics department, where the Tegra 3 wins.

Thanks. So are there many apps that take advantage of the dual core devices? My point being, if we are not really taking advantage of the dual core now, we most likely have a ways to go before we can take advantage of the quad core. I'm only asking because I really don't know and I'm trying to understand this.
 
I'm assuming the kickstand is in the middle for stability. I hope it's stronger than it looks. The Motorola Photon's kickstand is a Herculean bit of metal that's tough as nails and can support the phone on either side; I hope this is similar. And yes, it looks like it has a camera button!

I do hope they lose the two-tone glossy/matte back. That just looks terrible. Won't stop me from buying it, of course, but it would be nice to have a case only for protection and not to improve the looks. :D

Edit: anyone else think this phone has a weird, unfinished vibe to it due to the surprising amount of dust and flecks of... whatever visible in the pictures (particularly the kickstand closeup)? It almost looks like it just came out of a 3D printer.

Yup. Love the MoPho's kickstand, so hopefully HTC figured out a way to make the EVO One kickstand just as strong/stable. From the looks on the pics, I don't think it's set up to be able to prop the phone up on both sides (just based on the angle in the pics).

I was laughing at the dust all over the place in the pics because I thought that maybe someone just carved the kickstand out of wood, painted it red, and made a make-shift kickstand to get people excited!...LOL.
 
I'm hoping it's got a camera button. On my list of features needed to replace my og EVO but figured I'd have to do without when the X was shown. Everything else is there if what we've heard is true. I for one don't really care about what the outside looks like, I'm more into inner beauty (and a pretty face/screen).

And for those asking why Sprint is announcing it now when it won't be available until June, I bet it's because all of us with launch day EVOs just qualified for upgrades and this will keep us from jumping ship. I just hope I don't have to wait for LTE in San Diego as long as I did for Wimax.
 
I'm with you on that. I'm also going to wait. Only difference is I'm waiting to see what Samsung announces with their next flagship. I just hope they announce the GS3 before the next EVO drops in June. Then it will be disicion time!

Not likely. If Sprint goes with the same timeline as last year's superphones, it'll be this:

EVO One - April Announcement, June Release
Motorola - May Announcement, July Release
Samsung - June Announcement, August Release

This is the typical schedule that Sprint has gone with. This also falls in line with those Gold Premiere members who have their last 1 year upgrade, prior to moving on to the new 18 month upgrade timeframe.
 
I'm hoping it's got a camera button. On my list of features needed to replace my og EVO but figured I'd have to do without when the X was shown. Everything else is there if what we've heard is true. I for one don't really care about what the outside looks like, I'm more into inner beauty (and a pretty face/screen).

And for those asking why Sprint is announcing it now when it won't be available until June, I bet it's because all of us with launch day EVOs just qualified for upgrades and this will keep us from jumping ship. I just hope I don't have to wait for LTE in San Diego as long as I did for Wimax.

The higher end Evo's have always been announced in April at CTIA. Difference this year is that CTIA has been moved to May so Sprint decided to have their own event.
 
Not likely. If Sprint goes with the same timeline as last year's superphones, it'll be this:

EVO One - April Announcement, June Release
Motorola - May Announcement, July Release
Samsung - June Announcement, August Release

This is the typical schedule that Sprint has gone with. This also falls in line with those Gold Premiere members who have their last 1 year upgrade, prior to moving on to the new 18 month upgrade timeframe.

The Samsung timeline all depends on how Samsung is handling the GSIIIs launch.
 
If anything it will sport the S4 because Tegra 3 currently doesn't support LTE. Either case, the S4 is the better of the two. Quad-core doesn't mean better performance or battery life.

Are there any real benefits at this time for having a quad-core device? And what about any future use of quad-core devices?

If apps are ever optimized for more than two cores, then yes, there will be great advantages to them. For now, the Tegra 3 and S4 are pretty much on par with each other, except in the graphics department, where the Tegra 3 wins.

Thanks. So are there many apps that take advantage of the dual core devices? My point being, if we are not really taking advantage of the dual core now, we most likely have a ways to go before we can take advantage of the quad core. I'm only asking because I really don't know and I'm trying to understand this.

Maybe, but with the S4 running on A15 architecture, I think it will be just fine.

Thanks for all the comments on the quad vs. dual core processor. I guess my main reason for thinking in that manner is based on longevity. Since this will be my last 1 year upgrade, prior to having the standard 18 month waiting period for eligibility, I just want to be sure that whichever device I choose will be close enough to current, that it'll last me at least that timeframe.

I'm actually not 100% convinced that I'm going to upgrade from my MoPho because I really do love how the phone works and the accessories that Motorola offers, but if I do decide to upgrade, I just want to be sure that I'm purchasing a device that is that much better in performance and reliability as I've experienced with the MoPho.
 
The Samsung timeline all depends on how Samsung is handling the GSIIIs launch.

I personally don't think the international release of the GS3 will have anything to do with the timing of the Sprint launch.

August has been Samsung's month for Sprint devices from the Epic and E4GT. It only makes sense to offer up the successor to the E4GT during the month that all the original E4GT owners had purchased their phones last year, to account for those that still have their final Gold upgrade.
 
Thanks. So are there many apps that take advantage of the dual core devices? My point being, if we are not really taking advantage of the dual core now, we most likely have a ways to go before we can take advantage of the quad core. I'm only asking because I really don't know and I'm trying to understand this.

Android = Linux + Dalvik Virtual Machine + apps that run inside the Dalvik and use Linux services

The magic for multi core use happens at kernel level, that's a part of Linux.

Works like this - in programming, a developer can conceive of his solution to sometimes have some subprocesses that _could_ run in parallel, but managed properly, don't have to. The programming techniques for that are now old and well-established. The Android Developers website even walks devs though the overall how-to.

The potentially parallel processes are put into what programmers call threads. Just like in this forum, we have parallel threads about the screen, audio, etc, making up the whole conversation, similar concept.

So what happens to the threads at runtime?

The kernel decides how to load-balance across cores, Linux has been doing this for a long time.

This is why Android dual cores showed an advantage from day one.

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/381826-dual-cores-anyone-taking-advantage-them.html

Unlike iOS, apps don't get multiple core optimized. They are either written properly in the first place or they're not.

A key point of ICS is the upgrade to the Linux 3 kernel. This is far more efficient at task scheduling than before, especially for multiple cores.

So, if someone says that they have to optimize an app for quad core use, what they really said is, fix broken thread design in the first place.

When you think about these factors, you can begin to see that benchmarks are becoming less relevant than before - they tie less to real world applications from the cpu side.

A single S4 cpu core is at least twice as powerful as a single T3 core. Depending on the user's choice of apps with the two cores side by side, you will correctly judge either the S4 or T3 to be faster, or both equal.

As for the T3 having faster graphics: _maybe_.

Graphics benchmarks show programmers which graphic library functions may be more effective on which processors.

Neither cpu nor gpu benchmarks can tell you which horse is faster. It's an urban myth that they do.

Both the S4 and T3 represent the same order of magnitude upgrade over the single and dual core phones we use today. I would be equally happy with either.

Disclaimer - I'm a Qualcomm fan, prefer it to the ARM architecture that everyone else uses.
 
Not likely. If Sprint goes with the same timeline as last year's superphones, it'll be this:

EVO One - April Announcement, June Release
Motorola - May Announcement, July Release
Samsung - June Announcement, August Release

This is the typical schedule that Sprint has gone with. This also falls in line with those Gold Premiere members who have their last 1 year upgrade, prior to moving on to the new 18 month upgrade timeframe.

I hope they follow that same timeline. That way I can make my decision in June. While I am looking at what Samsung has to offer, I do want to see what Motorola has as well.
 
I personally don't think the international release of the GS3 will have anything to do with the timing of the Sprint launch.

August has been Samsung's month for Sprint devices from the Epic and E4GT. It only makes sense to offer up the successor to the E4GT during the month that all the original E4GT owners had purchased their phones last year, to account for those that still have their final Gold upgrade.

The E4GT was released in Sept.
 
I really hope it is a camera button. It's just nice to have even though I don't use it much.

Me too. I've gotten too used to having it on my MoPho that it'd be a little disappointing not having one anymore.

I'm hoping it's got a camera button. On my list of features needed to replace my og EVO but figured I'd have to do without when the X was shown. Everything else is there if what we've heard is true. I for one don't really care about what the outside looks like, I'm more into inner beauty (and a pretty face/screen).

And for those asking why Sprint is announcing it now when it won't be available until June, I bet it's because all of us with launch day EVOs just qualified for upgrades and this will keep us from jumping ship. I just hope I don't have to wait for LTE in San Diego as long as I did for Wimax.

I'm not big on the overall physical look either, when it comes to phones. Functionality and performance are most important qualities to me (and after having the MoPho, accessories do play a factor as well).

I agree about the announcement, to a certain extent. At the same time, I think they're also trying to capitalize on the international One X having just been released, in order to drive up interest on their new EVO. Sprint failed miserably when it came to hyping and marketing the EVO 3D, Photon, and the E4GT, prior to their respective launches. I think they just "assumed" that people would jump on the bandwagon for the EVO 3D, based purely on the success of the original EVO. I think, many of the aspects that people were disappointed in for the EVO 3D (myself included), they're trying to prevent that this year with the EVO One. With an extra month to talk about the EVO One, it drives up the excitement and marketing without Sprint having to do anything else. That's what made the initial EVO release so popular.
 
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