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Since i didnt see anyone asked stericson about the reception on the incredible i asked him on gtalk


stericson.g1: No problem with the reception


: thats great what about the location of the antenna


stericson.g1: Not to sure where that's at
 
I think what we're seeing here is what Google said they would be doing eventually. They said a couple of months ago, in a press conference I believe, that Android would eventually be able to store apps on the micro SD card. So, I think what we're seeing is the Incredible being the first phone to have this advantage.

How this makes sense to me is: 512 RAM (basically the speed of the phone, how fast it can run applications and how fast the phone "responds" when you're using it) and 512 ROM (onboard storage for apps, etc.) Now...here is where I think we're reading this wrong. They're including the 8GB as an EXTENSION of the ROM. The 8GB they're refering to is the micro SD card. The reason they're including it in the ROM specs is because this phone will allow you to now store apps on the micro SD card.

That makes perfect sense to me. I'm sure a lot of us remember the press conference when Google executives said that they were "working on this" or something, and that they would have Android able to store apps on removable media soon. I think this is what we're seeing and the Incredible is the first to employ this new storage process.
 
With NKT's new info, i tried to do some moviNAND research, and I found this site which explains the emmc memory. I also found that this is the same memory that the pre uses for ROM like NKT said.
 
NKT said:
Ok, did some more looking around at the docs that I have and I think I can confirm Stericsons 8gb onboard flash storage (ie Pre+):

So slap a 32gb micoSD in that bad boy and you got some serious storage! And I wonder if the means that Google is going to use the 8gb onboard for app storage. That would be sweet :)

And as far as weight goes, it is lighter than the N1.
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That is awesome, i'm so pumped you have confirmed this too. I wanted to believe it when Stericsons said it but I didn't want it to get my hopes up and when the time came be really disappointed.
 
longdaddy said:
Since i didnt see anyone asked stericson about the reception on the incredible i asked him on gtalk


stericson.g1: No problem with the reception


: thats great what about the location of the antenna


stericson.g1: Not to sure where that's at
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The antenna is located in the bottom of the handset.
 
NKT said:
Ok, did some more looking around at the docs that I have and I think I can confirm Stericsons 8gb onboard flash storage (ie Pre+):

So slap a 32gb micoSD in that bad boy and you got some serious storage! And I wonder if the means that Google is going to use the 8gb onboard for app storage. That would be sweet :)

And as far as weight goes, it is lighter than the N1.
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We may not see app storage like that for awhile, but Google is prepping anyway. Even if they dont get app storage onto storage like that it will give one the ability to have their Incredible have more storage then any Iphone.
 
Nashdroid said:
I think what we're seeing here is what Google said they would be doing eventually. They said a couple of months ago, in a press conference I believe, that Android would eventually be able to store apps on the micro SD card. So, I think what we're seeing is the Incredible being the first phone to have this advantage.

How this makes sense to me is: 512 RAM (basically the speed of the phone, how fast it can run applications and how fast the phone "responds" when you're using it) and 512 ROM (onboard storage for apps, etc.) Now...here is where I think we're reading this wrong. They're including the 8GB as an EXTENSION of the ROM. The 8GB they're refering to is the micro SD card. The reason they're including it in the ROM specs is because this phone will allow you to now store apps on the micro SD card.

That makes perfect sense to me. I'm sure a lot of us remember the press conference when Google executives said that they were "working on this" or something, and that they would have Android able to store apps on removable media soon. I think this is what we're seeing and the Incredible is the first to employ this new storage process.
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I don't think this is the case since the Pre uses the same moviNAND memory, and Stericson said there was no SD card in the phone when it read 6.6 GB free.
 
woodraskam said:
With NKT's new info, i tried to do some moviNAND research, and I found this site which explains the emmc memory. I also found that this is the same memory that the pre uses for ROM like NKT said.
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OK, maybe I'm wrong on this one. (Edit: I AM wrong) I think I might be. The 8GB of moviNAND flash storage is BUILT IN the phone. This makes sense now. Because if it's built in they can make it to where you can't "rip" apps off of your phone and just give them to people or share them on the internet for free. Think about how small 8GB can be brought down to now days. I have a micro SD card in my current phone and it's seriously TINY. I got it two years ago. So, I'm sure they can make 8GB of on-board storage on this phone not take up much space at all in the hardware of this phone. I retract my former case. I looked up moviNAND and I agree with you guys, it's built in.

So, yes, you can throw in a 32GB micro SD card and...dear lord...that would definitely be an iPhone killer, in my opinion. If they include a 32GB micro SD it REALLY would be.
 
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NKT said:
Don't think they're shipping with 32gb cards. I've heard it shipping with a 8gb.
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I really don't think they'll need to ship with an additional SD card now....some people won't want to pay the extra up front cost, and some will want a bigger card, so I see them selling the Incredible sans sd card.
 
Nashdroid said:
OK, maybe I'm wrong on this one. (Edit: I AM wrong) I think I might be. The 8GB of moviNAND flash storage is BUILT IN the phone. This makes sense now. Because if it's built in they can make it to where you can't "rip" apps off of your phone and just give them to people or share them on the internet for free. Think about how small 8GB can be brought down to now days. I have a micro SD card in my current phone and it's seriously TINY. I got it two years ago. So, I'm sure they can make 8GB of on-board storage on this phone not take up much space at all in the hardware of this phone. I retract my former case. I looked up moviNAND and I agree with you guys, it's built in.

So, yes, you can throw in a 32GB micro SD card and...dear lord...that would definitely be an iPhone killer, in my opinion. If they include a 32GB micro SD it REALLY would be.
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Nash, here's Stericson's quote about the onboard storage from yesterday, FWIW:

Yes, my source still has his phone.

also, I thought yall would like to know he said the storage on the phone is mountable like an sdcard, he tried it while the sdcard was out, My source says it shows up as two devices.

Also, the market is the same as the droid, and Verizon hasnt done any integration with sense from what he tells me.
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NKT said:
Don't think they're shipping with 32gb cards. I've heard it shipping with a 8gb.
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I dont doubt its shipping with a 8gb card. But you'll have the ability to add a 32gb card which then give you the ability to have more storage then any iphone which is what I meant.
 
woodraskam said:
I really don't think they'll need to ship with an additional SD card now....some people won't want to pay the extra up front cost, and some will want a bigger card, so I see them selling the Incredible sans sd card.
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In Box: Device, 8GB SD Card Standard Battery (1300mAh), A/C Charger, USB Cable, Quick Reference Guide (link to UM), Read First Poster.​
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:D
 
dude if this phone ships with the specs we are hearing it is gonna be straight BEAST. only prob is youre gonna need a back up battery supply something along the lines of a big ass backpack battery to keep this bad boy runnin.
 
DroID RaGE said:
I remember reading way back in this thread that the battery is one of the criteria that the FCC looks at before passing a phone, and if the size of it changes, the phone would have to go back through for FCC approval. So, I think that we are stuck with that battery ...
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That cracks me up because you can pop in any other 3rd party battery into the thing without the FCC testing it so why all the fuss from them? Oh yeah, it's the government. :)
 
NKT said:
Ok, did some more looking around at the docs that I have and I think I can confirm Stericsons 8gb onboard flash storage (ie Pre+):

So slap a 32gb micoSD in that bad boy and you got some serious storage! And I wonder if the means that Google is going to use the 8gb onboard for app storage. That would be sweet :)

And as far as weight goes, it is lighter than the N1.
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Question: Where did this quote you had in ^that^ post come from?

"Device Vendor Memory Lockdown [Pooled Memory Required] ROM:512MB Flash+8GB moviNAND
RAM: 512MB

Memory (RAM, FLASH) ROM:512MB Flash + 8GB moviNAND RAM:512MB"

Is that from one of the spec sheets you have that came with the phone that you've been referencing or what?
 
yea thats what i was thinking...im wondering how our battery life is going to compare with that of the desire..especially since it is looking that our incredible is more juiced up.
 
All very exciting news! I can't believe that we had less the 100 pages last Monday, but now are at 125.

I'm glad to see that the processor isn't under-clocked. Now we will have some great zippiness to the phone! I thought that this phone was going to be an exact HTC Desire with different looks, but right now, it is looking better! (Although I still believe that no device on this planet looks as good as the HTC Desire.)
 
NKT said:
Ok, did some more looking around at the docs that I have and I think I can confirm Stericsons 8gb onboard flash storage (ie Pre+):

So slap a 32gb micoSD in that bad boy and you got some serious storage! And I wonder if the means that Google is going to use the 8gb onboard for app storage. That would be sweet :)

And as far as weight goes, it is lighter than the N1.
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Thanks man!
 
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