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YoungGun

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I have searched for WiFi tether apps and found a few. One that looks good is WiFi Tether for Root.
Now can I use this with out getting in trouble or charged extra from Verizon?
I am rooted.
 
You can't really go wrong with Fox Fi. Probably up there with one of the best Wifi Tethering apps. As long as you don't use Verizon's exclusive Hotspot application, you won't be charged extra besides the data plan it'll eat up.
 
YoungGun said:
I have searched for WiFi tether apps and found a few. One that looks good is WiFi Tether for Root.
Now can I use this with out getting in trouble or charged extra from Verizon?
I am rooted.
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I use wifi tether for root users. It works for everything I need....

And as long as your not downloading over 8-10gb a month you'll be good .. I've been tethering since 09 and haven't been charged for it
 
I use FoxFi and it works great on my unrooted spectrum. Wifi Tether for Root Users never did work for me and thus I switched to FoxFi with the 'addon'.

bones420la said:
And as long as your not downloading over 8-10gb a month you'll be good .. I've been tethering since 09 and haven't been charged for it
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I cannot avoid using any less than about 20gb per month with many months my data charges getting above 25gb and there has been a time or two where I was above 30gb of data used. There is not much I can avoid in being a "data hog" I use my phone quite a bit for work and there is a lot of downloading/uploading to the cloud.

To date I have never had verizon call me to say "STOP USING SO MUCH DATA!". However I do notice my phone going into 3G a lot more lately, wonder if this is Verizon throttling my data usage?
 
I use roughly 20-40 GB a month in data, mostly through wifi tether and torrent downloading and have never seen an increase in my bill.
 
Donkathon said:
I use FoxFi and it works great on my unrooted spectrum. Wifi Tether for Root Users never did work for me and thus I switched to FoxFi with the 'addon'.



I cannot avoid using any less than about 20gb per month with many months my data charges getting above 25gb and there has been a time or two where I was above 30gb of data used. There is not much I can avoid in being a "data hog" I use my phone quite a bit for work and there is a lot of downloading/uploading to the cloud.

To date I have never had verizon call me to say "STOP USING SO MUCH DATA!". However I do notice my phone going into 3G a lot more lately, wonder if this is Verizon throttling my data usage?
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I do notice my data is always slower at the end of the month
 
just an interesting tidbit i found

FCC to Verizon: Don’t block tethering apps. Verizon settles for $1.25M — Mobile Technology News

Verizon customers will soon have the option of downloading Android apps that let them turn their phone into a mobile hotspot –apps that Verizon blocked initially because it didn’t want customers circumventing its $20 a month mobile hot spot fee. The FCC has determined that nation’s largest wireless carrier was in the wrong in this situation because it had purchased spectrum back in 2008 that required Verizon to allow open access to its network. Thus Verizon has settled with the FCC and is offering a $1.25 million payment to the U.S. Treasury as a result of the FCC’s consent decree on this issue. The FCC also is saying that Verizon cannot charge customers on tiered data plans the $20 a month tethering fee, but it can charge it for those customers who are on an unlimited data plan. However, Verizon will not actually have a way to determine if customers are using one of these apps, so presumably any Android customer can download one of those apps and tether to their heart’s content.
Unfortunately for customers of AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile, which also charge fees on some plans to use the handset as a hotspot, the FCC’s consent decree was based on Verizon’s purchase of 700 MHz spectrum that came with a mandate that Verizon let other devices and applications run on that spectrum. So Verizon now has to notify Google that customers of Verizon Wireless can now access tethering apps such as Wireless Tether or PDANet, which has 6 million downloads.
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Very interesting. They'll see if you're a hog I am a congested market like SF, NYC or Seattle, but they don't monitor other markets as stringently, from what I've read and been told. Be thankful we're not att users... My buddy was dinged after he went over 3gb this month and it was the first time he ever did. So he proceeded to ramp it up to 30gb in protest. Lol
 
Could you stear me in the right direction, i installed foxfi and it says I have to use bluetooth... i have a droid incredible 2
 
You really shouldn't have to do much more than get FoxFi and the addon apps... there's a bluetooth mode, but it's not necessary. Just click 'Activate WifiHotspot' and the app will turn on your wifi and route data to the wifi.

That said, there's a chance it doesn't work with your phone. Check forums for your specific device and see if others have issues using the app. I had tons of problems getting these tether apps to work on my Droid 2, so it might be a Moto issue.
 
So if it is illegal for Verizon to charge us for it, then should we not just use their app, as it will work better than another, would you not agree?

I'd be happy to notify the proper authorities of they add something to my bill...

I am sticking with my current family plan with the double data from 5 GB to 10 GB for my phone. I always go over 5 every month, and I had to not use my data for two days to avoid going over the 10 GB on one month since I had my spectrum.
 
If you don't have the new 'share everything' plan (like I dont) then you get an error when you try to use the vz hot spot app. My guess is the vz provisioning app checks to see if hot spot is on your plan and allows/blocks accordingly.

If I were on a share everything plan, I'd use the vz app, for sure.... Foxfi is hit/miss on my phone.... Works for a while, then the data drops and it's a bear to restart... A few times I haven't been able to get data back working at all within a shutdown and 30 second wait.
 
I have the same data drop issue with both foxfi and wireless tether for root, reboot is actually the fastest fix, flipping airplane mode doesn't always do anything
 
finndo77 said:
So if it is illegal for Verizon to charge us for it, then should we not just use their app, as it will work better than another, would you not agree?

I'd be happy to notify the proper authorities of they add something to my bill...
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You made a mistake in your interpretation of the ruling finndo. The FCC ruling was not that verizon couldn't charge for mobile hotspot, it was that they could no longer block anyone from using apps that provide it for free. Verizon has every right under the law to charge you to use their mobile hotspot app, because it's your free choice to decide weather you want to use it or not. You are not being forced to, and therefore there is no violation of the law.

It's just like gps navigation. Verizon charges 9.99 a month to use their app, but you can use gps for free with google maps. Verizon isn't violating any law by doing this, nor are we violating our agreement by using google maps for free.

I personally cancelled my mobile hotspot on the one line I was using it for.

My only gripe is that verizon was in violation of the agreement they made with the FCC for manipulating us into thinking in order to be honest in our agreement with them that we needed to subscribe to mobile hotspot to use our phone as a mobile hotspot. The reason I say this is because even though I knew that there were apps which would provide free mobile hotspot, I nevertheless choose to pay for it because of my desire to uphold my contract with them, and to not be dishonest or immoral.

I think with this being the reality of things, (and I'm sure I'm not alone in what I just said above) a legal case could be made that verizon owes damages to those of us who, because of the manipulation on verizons part, paid for mobile hotspot. I for one am against all suing of any kind, (due to my religious beliefs) but, knowing the law very well, I think a very solid case for a class action lawsuit could be made and even won if handled by a knowledgeable and proficient lawyer.

The only bad thing would be that Verizon would have to pay back probably ten's if not hundreds of millions of dollars to it's customers which would then, most probably, move them to raise their prices on the regular contracts. I know that no corporation likes to lose money, nor have to pay settlements, and when those things happen, they always make it back someway or another.
 
I'm not sure you're 100% correct on the fcc ruling. They got into trouble because they restricted ability to use the phone as a wifi Hotspot without paying, when the agreement they entered into with the fcc for the higher spectrums was to allow full access. So they don't force you to use their navigation with these phones (but did on phones before the droid), so that's not a violation, it's now a choice.... But the Hotspot wasn't even a choice, it was a flat out block (and still is with the old plans).

There have been a few people trying to use this fcc agreement for other gripes with vz, but so far, the Hotspot one is the only that holds merit.
 
MrB206 said:
I'm not sure you're 100% correct on the fcc ruling. They got into trouble because they restricted ability to use the phone as a wifi Hotspot without paying, when the agreement they entered into with the fcc for the higher spectrums was to allow full access.
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I don't follow how you are rebuking what I said...

What was I wrong about?

Maybe You misunderstood my post but we are basically saying the same thing using different words. I said very clearly that the FCC ruling declared that blocking free MHS apps was forbidden and could no longer do it, and you said "They got into trouble because they restricted ability to use the phone as a wifi Hotspot without paying"
 
IMUcarmen said:
I don't follow how you are rebuking what I said...

What was I wrong about?

Maybe You misunderstood my post but we are basically saying the same thing using different words. I said very clearly that the FCC ruling declared that blocking free MHS apps was forbidden and could no longer do it, and you said "They got into trouble because they restricted ability to use the phone as a wifi Hotspot without paying"
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Yea, after reading it again, I realize we're saying the same thing. I saw this:

Verizon has every right under the law to charge you to use their mobile hotspot app, because it's your free choice to decide weather you want to use it or not. You are not being forced to, and therefore there is no violation of the law.
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... and under previous parameters, it's not quite accurate. They only had a right to charge for the app if they also allowed it to be used for free. People can choose, as you said, to use VZNavigator over Google Navigation, but that's because they don't block other navigation apps from working. Stupid semantic reply on my part. My apologies.

I have to say, though, I'm a bit confused why they're not forced to allow it to ALL customers, rather than just those with new plans. It seems like VZ is trying to get people away from those unlimited data plans by squeezing us out little by little. I'll have to read the ruling sometime and see what it's all aboot.
 
MrB206 said:
Yea, after reading it again, I realize we're saying the same thing. I saw this:


... and under previous parameters, it's not quite accurate. They only had a right to charge for the app if they also allowed it to be used for free. People can choose, as you said, to use VZNavigator over Google Navigation, but that's because they don't block other navigation apps from working. Stupid semantic reply on my part. My apologies.

I have to say, though, I'm a bit confused why they're not forced to allow it to ALL customers, rather than just those with new plans. It seems like VZ is trying to get people away from those unlimited data plans by squeezing us out little by little. I'll have to read the ruling sometime and see what it's all aboot.
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Yea it was I misunderstanding most likely due to a lack of clarity on my part. I was saying they had a right to still charge in the context that we now have options and Verizon can still charge for MHS. Prior to the ruling your statement is correct. That's why I made a point that it could open up the possibility for a class action lawsuit because before they gave us no such option.

The funny thing is the only ones who got any money from this ruling are the ones who received no damage. And what's a million and a quarter to Verizon...Nothing

As far as paying for a MHS, like I said before I cancelled my MHS on my unlimited line and I'm now strictly using the free apps :-) I was already anyway but I was still paying but since this ruling I saw no need to pay for it anymore.
 
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