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We Are Being Watched (Dont Download Illegal Movies/Music)

Lately i heard that my internet provider, Time Warner Cable, has been prosecuting some people who Torrent too much haha, so it seems there is this grey area of space between torrenting and torrenting too much :p
 
Changing the laws and prosecuting will not stop it, or even slow it down substantially. We have laws on the books for murder, yet look how many are committed each year.
The fact is, until attitudes change, downloading pirated material will continue to thrive. Bringing down some of those theater prices is a beginning. I shouldn't have to count a percentage of a check to take the family to the movies.
Also, quit charging $15+ for a dvd that only costs a coupe bucks to produce in the first place.
Lastly, the industry should recognize that the consumer is using the same type logic (greed) to justify illegal downloading as the industry is using to charge those outlandish prices. We didn't make the rules, we're just playing the game.
 
Bob Maxey said:
I am downloading a pirate movie. Hope it is a good one.
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Is it rated "Arrrrr" ?

I download a few hundred songs from Tunee, which I got from Google Play. It's not on there anymore so I'm betting it was not on the up 'n up. Hope I don't get busted :mad::smokingsomb:
 
ajdroidx said:
You are on the internet. Of course you are being watched. We all are.
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Only if you dont know how to hide :P lol

Do you honestly thing the RIAA are gonna the time tracing you through several different servers to bust you downloading a movie lol?

Most of the people that you hear about getting sued etc are Uploaders
 
Haggistech said:
Only if you dont know how to hide :P lol

Do you honestly thing the RIAA are gonna the time tracing you through several different servers to bust you downloading a movie lol?

Most of the people that you hear about getting sued etc are Uploaders
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The RIAA is concerned with music, the MPAA with movies.

As I've been following this closely for some years, most of the people I've read about are downloaders.

Read some of the cases blogged by the leading attorney on the web for this.

Recording Industry vs The People
 
Digital Controller said:
Lately i heard that my internet provider, Time Warner Cable, has been prosecuting some people who Torrent too much haha, so it seems there is this grey area of space between torrenting and torrenting too much :p
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You've struck on the real problem... bandwidth. ISP's don't give a damn if you DL legal data or not... they just care about their precious bandwidth. It's a fact that those who torrent take up WAY more of their bandwidth so rather than beef up their infrastructure to handle the demand they join forces with those who wish to prosecute their customers to 'help' them with the pertinent information to catch the wrong doers.

And people wonder why I'm sorry I ever decided to be done with hacked untrackable modems that got me 32mb of free download speed for paying a monthly fee of $50 for substantially slower speeds that they monitor what materials I view/download. I just keep telling myself that doing the right thing is.... right. :rolleyes:
 
Parshooter said:
Is it rated "Arrrrr" ?

I download a few hundred songs from Tunee, which I got from Google Play. It's not on there anymore so I'm betting it was not on the up 'n up. Hope I don't get busted :mad::smokingsomb:
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Yup. Arrrrr rated, ye matey (matie?)

Seems odd that Google will allow apps that make it effortless to DL illegal content. Not complaining, just wunnerin, ya know? I can fill a library with stuff I DL to my phone or Dropbox and it cant all be legal.
 
Bob Maxey said:
Yup. Arrrrr rated, ye matey (matie?)

Seems odd that Google will allow apps that make it effortless to DL illegal content. Not complaining, just wunnerin, ya know? I can fill a library with stuff I DL to my phone or Dropbox and it cant all be legal.
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You can inform google of any apps used for piracy quite easily.

Please don't ask them to remove browsers.
 
Don't reupload it anywhere - stash it on a USB stick that isn't plugged into the computer. I probably have some, too. But I'm not sharing. If Google didn't get it off Youtube fast enough - that's Google's problem.

I don't believe in sharing something that was copyrighted - but if I got a file in good faith and have it for my own use, I'm not deleting it. I'll send someone a link, but not the video or MP3. If the item is no longer there, too bad.

I don't use Torrents of any kind. I don't trust them.

Are you celebrating El dia de los muertos?
 
zuben el genub said:
Just saw this:
Files aren?t property, says US government ? The Register

If files aren't property, that's another can of worms.

Your spreadsheet tracking a sales item isn't your property? You mean all the ligitants in any lawsuit are to have sensitive info?

You are a successful artist and your Youtube channel isn't your property?
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If those same documents were in hard format (printed onto paper) and you went around town handing them out to anyone who would take them and posting them for everyone to see... would you expect to be able to sue people for reading and using the information on those forms? This is kind of how the internet works.

As for YouTube... it's a tool to get your work seen by millions that you wouldn't otherwise have. If you become popular on the YouTubes and can't capitalize on that fame if that's your goal then that's your problem.
 
zuben el genub said:
Your spreadsheet tracking a sales item isn't your property? You mean all the ligitants in any lawsuit are to have sensitive info?

You are a successful artist and your Youtube channel isn't your property?
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Hmmm. i think who owns what is up for debate. And the debate ends with YT/Google's TOS. Or Dropbox's TOS. Or some other web site's TOS. Rather, it begins there and a jury finally decides. Perhaps an appeal or three. Very complex these days.

Not sure what their terms of service says, but I am sure they do not claim ownership of the files. Your spreadsheet is not yours if it was created at work, most likely. And your boss likely owns whatever you create using his/her corporate systems. I believe the last one has already been lost in court.

Perhaps EarlyMon can explain the current status of who owns what, created with corporate assets.

If you use music owned by someone else in your videos, your videos are not completely yours.

Your car has more rights than you do, perhaps. You can part it out, rent it to others for a few hours for fun and games. You cannot sell a kidney or rent your body out for pleasure. And if your doctor discovers the reason you eat and eat and eat and avoid putting on the pounds and he discovers a new gene, for example, he can patent it and he owns a part of you and (apparently) the law is on his side. I say apparently because I am not sure how far this has been pushed in court.

Michael Crichton went into the legal issues years ago in one of his books. Apparently, this idea that someone can own you (in a manner of speaking) is possible.

Actually, Apple owns it all because they created it. Were you not aware of this? :D
 
"However, it’s the government’s argument about property rights over files that The Register finds intriguing. While it seems to have the capacity, as stated by the EFF, to chill the cloud computing market, it’s an interpretation of intellectual property rights that would also be unwelcome in Hollywood. Content owners would hardly welcome a determination that the existence of a copy of data isn’t necessarily sufficient to establish ownership rights over that data.
 
I think that there are some reporting shortcuts somewhere.

Feds: "Hi. We've confiscated files on your server because you had a lot of stolen content there. Your site was famous for it."

Plaintiff: "Nuh uh. Those files are all mine. Give them back. I promise they won't have an accident and get distributed again."

Feds: "Yeah. No."

As for content owners in the recording industry being upset - not really. I'm sure that their position is that just owning a copy of a file doesn't establish your ownership of its contents by itself. So that contradicts the last statement in your quote.

Finally, I'm pretty sure that a Facebook case already established that others can't usurp ownership of your content even if their terms of service say that they can.

I think that there was a bit of sensationalism in the article.
 
i download media to enjoy.. from time to time.
I would guess that more than 20% of the internet connected population does this.
this maybe 10s of millions of individuals in the USA alone.

I dont have much for them to sue for... if they choose to take me to court. they may win.. but aint getting anything from me. They would be wasting time and money with me.

i would think before they take anyone to court, they would do a quick financial background on each person (which is pretty easy). if a person has nothing in assets..there is no point in paying for an expensive legal proceeding.

i feel.. i aint important enough for them to waste their time on.
 
dan330 said:
i download media to enjoy.. from time to time.
I would guess that more than 20% of the internet connected population does this.
this maybe 10s of millions of individuals in the USA alone.

I dont have much for them to sue for... if they choose to take me to court. they may win.. but aint getting anything from me. They would be wasting time and money with me.

i would think before they take anyone to court, they would do a quick financial background on each person (which is pretty easy). if a person has nothing in assets..there is no point in paying for an expensive legal proceeding.

i feel.. i aint important enough for them to waste their time on.
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Clearly, you didn't look at past cases in my recording industry vs the people link earlier.
 
dan330 said:
i download media to enjoy.. from time to time.
I would guess that more than 20% of the internet connected population does this.
this maybe 10s of millions of individuals in the USA alone.

I dont have much for them to sue for... if they choose to take me to court. they may win.. but aint getting anything from me. They would be wasting time and money with me.

i would think before they take anyone to court, they would do a quick financial background on each person (which is pretty easy). if a person has nothing in assets..there is no point in paying for an expensive legal proceeding.

i feel.. i aint important enough for them to waste their time on.
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Lile Chris Rock said, "my credit is so bad, they won't even take my money".
 
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