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so much for the evo, sprint is is worried about losing WiMax to LTE... dunno if this has been talked about/ posted yet... but it's important as right now the Evo is the Incredible's biggest competition


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Sprint and its partner Clearwire, which Sprint is a majority investor, are asking the 3GPP--the organization responsible for LTE standards--to evaluate a standard for TD-LTE on the 2.6 GHz spectrum. So what does all that mean? Sprint and Clearwire currently is offering a rival 4G technology to LTE called WiMax, which the two are promoting with the launch of the HTC EVO 4G. With Clearwire asking the 3GPP to create a US standard for TD-LTE, it seems that Sprint and Clearwire may be wanting to switch to LTE like the rest of the world. However, I don't think this would be the case. I think that Sprint and Clearwire are evaluating the worst case scenario. If WiMax doesn't take off in the US, manufacturing partners for WiMax may abandon the protocol and just build LTE equipment, in which case Sprint and Clearwire may not want to be caught without a 4G network, so it makes sense for Sprint and Clearwire to begin seeking options. With the EVO 4G and the heavy promotion that Sprint is investing in the handset, it would seem that a change to TD-LTE would be ill-timed.

Moreover, TD-LTE is another odd standard to have. Unlike FDD-LTE, utilized by the majority of the world and offers separate channels for upstream and downstream data, TD-LTE is a standard mostly employed in China and uses the same channel for uploading and downloading. FDD-LTE will offer the best network fidelity. The reason that Clearwire is asking the 3GPP for a TD-LTE standard is that the current technology is designed for the 2.3 GHz spectrum, but Clearwire owns spectrum 2.5 and 2.6 GHz.

Although 3GPP said that they will begin to investigate the request by Clearwire, Clearwire cannot make a formal switch until November 2011 when its contract with Intel expires for WiMax.

With Sprint on WiMax and Verizon Wireless and AT&T adopting LTE for 4G, there shouldn't be much concern--the US has had dual-standards for years with Sprint & Verizon Wireless currently offering CDMA network technology while AT&T and T-Mobile USA are on GSM. The main concern that Clearwire probably has on the issue is whether equipment makers may shun creating equipment for a less widely used standard, WiMax, when the majority of the world is on LTE. "

Awesome post, I have been really following the LTE-Wimax debate for a while. The only thing I am trying to hash out is where do the other 2 companies (time warner and Google) who have invested a billion dollars together into Wimax come out on this. I didn't see their names on the Wimax 2 initiative either.
 
As addicted as I am to this phone I may no longer be first in line. I've decided to purchase a newer vehicle and sadly VZW/HTC will probably miss out a bit longer taking my $30 a month for data. That new Mustang sure looks a lot more appealing right now over the HTC Questionable Release.
 
Would it be stupid to have a recap post? Something that has all of the confirmed information, specs, Q & A, etc on this page or the next? Save folks from having to read through 665 pages to see what the heck is going on? Just a suggestion.

Excellent idea... I nominate you to be in charge of the Daily Recap Post.
 
As addicted as I am to this phone I may no longer be first in line. I've decided to purchase a newer vehicle and sadly VZW/HTC will probably miss out a bit longer taking my $30 a month for data. That new Mustang sure looks a lot more appealing right now over the HTC Questionable Release.

A friend of mine is a mustang fanatic and I recall him telling me something about the 2011 Mustang receiving a huge HP increase. Might want to wait. ;)
 
This doesn't do anything for the all important timeline question BUT ....

If you try going to www.verizonwireless.com/incredible (idea taken from the KIN website), you are forwarded to: http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/

My guess is that this is THE website to check. It currently shows a "404 - File or directory not found" but I was forwarded to that page by VZW's own doing...

Do not think this means anything. Try adr6300, desire, legend, etc and you get the same thing.
 
A friend of mine is a mustang fanatic and I recall him telling me something about the 2011 Mustang receiving a huge HP increase. Might want to wait. ;)


eh, just look around for a used GXP, slap on an intake and cat-back and call it a day :p :D :D
 
I for one am very glad we have this forum to pass the time until the phone is released...I have no idea what our parents did back in their day to pass the time when they were waiting for their next smartphone to be released.
 
This doesn't do anything for the all important timeline question BUT ....

If you try going to www.verizonwireless.com/incredible (idea taken from the KIN website), you are forwarded to: http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/

My guess is that this is THE website to check. It currently shows a "404 - File or directory not found" but I was forwarded to that page by VZW's own doing...

That's so funny--because I did the SAME thing! I wonder how many of us tried typing in that site!?
 
just an observance here...maybe just my paranoia
I was cruising the testman site and noticed the following:

When you search htc incredible you get a bunch of identical bluetooth devices.
When you browse the 3G smartphone area, i notice that the original storm has moved to the bottom of the selection page. A spot usually reserved for VZ's latest and greatest.

Just taking a stab here...maybe these are "placeholders" for the Inc & Inc accessories??

When making a sudden launch they need these slots already built in the system so they can just pull the trigger??

If somebody smarter than me could chime in?
 
I want this phone alot but will wait on a few reviews here first. It would be my primary phone. I saw youtube video and did not like that he had to press J and then O to find John. That just won't work for me. Hope my cheek doesn't hang up on me. Now move on to page 667 incredibly quick
 
As addicted as I am to this phone I may no longer be first in line. I've decided to purchase a newer vehicle and sadly VZW/HTC will probably miss out a bit longer taking my $30 a month for data. That new Mustang sure looks a lot more appealing right now over the HTC Questionable Release.

lol.

yeah .. that's one way to get yer mind off a phone!!

cool...
 
I for one am very glad we have this forum to pass the time until the phone is released...I have no idea what our parents did back in their day to pass the time when they were waiting for their next smartphone to be released.
I think they actually talked to each other face to face.
 
LMAO...My HEART just stopped temporarily...

As I'm reading this forum, Just got an email on my Storm (exchanging for the Incredible :)) that said - " An "INCREDIBLE" Deal on our"...end of screen.

Opened it up and it was a stupid ad from HP...anyway, just thought I would share...amazing how the anxiety courses through the veins sometimes :)
 
just an observance here...maybe just my paranoia
I was cruising the testman site and noticed the following:

When you search htc incredible you get a bunch of identical bluetooth devices.
When you browse the 3G smartphone area, i notice that the original storm has moved to the bottom of the selection page. A spot usually reserved for VZ's latest and greatest.

Just taking a stab here...maybe these are "placeholders" for the Inc & Inc accessories??

When making a sudden launch they need these slots already built in the system so they can just pull the trigger??

If somebody smarter than me could chime in?

<----thinks you're on to something.
 
The true test of how incredible the Incredible will be is if my girlfriend actually uses it. She's tried checking her webmail on my Storm a few times and has been extremely frustrated with the experience. If she actively browses and such with it, I'll consider the device a success. :-)


That, and I can't wait to start developing for Android.
 
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