Verizon S5 Lollipop Upgrade Problems

[neil154]

I have not yet upgraded to Lollipop on my S5 and want to hear from you all who were brave enough to upgrade about the bugs that appear to exist before I decide to upgrade.

I have a stock Verizon S5 currently running 4.4.4 and not rooted

What bugs are there?
How is battery life?
What do you not like about the changes?

 

[AZgl1500]

I'm just waiting to see how this goes.

I turned off the updater files so it can't upgrade to anything again.
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, KK 4.4.4, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
I refuse to install LolliFLOP
Data and WiFi have been permanently turned OFF until VZW fixes this mess.

 

[neil154]

What are you using your phone for with your wifi and data turned off? Do you like having a fancy paper weight?

I'm just waiting to see how this goes.

I turned off the updater files so it can't upgrade to anything again.
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, KK 4.4.4, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
I refuse to install LolliFLOP
Data and WiFi have been permanently turned OFF until VZW fixes this mess.

 

[AZgl1500]

I get that kind of post all the time. Turning off the internet extends the battery life between charges immensely. My wife's S5 is a telephone, and sometimes she plays games on it. It goes about 8 or 9 days on a single charge.

My S5 stays quite busy, lots of phone calls and SMS use. email, google searches when necessary will require I turn on DATA, but not WiFi..... All of the GPS apps that I use for my work projects do not require the internet, I take a lot of pictures of highway problems with my job, and the GPS date/time stamp is embedded in the pix. I write up a summary of the problem and email it. Blue Mail stuffs it into a queue and it waits until I turn on DATA again.

I have the updater apps turned OFF, and I also have Auto Updates OFF, and I have update on WiFi only. so, I feel pretty sure that my phone will not ever see a 5.0 OS install. I don't need the hassles that I am reading about. I don't need a pretty toy to play with, I have a perfectly good working smartphone that does everything it needs to do "at the time I need it"...

I control when and IF it can access the internet. My phone is just as good as your phone, I just choose to control what it will and will not be doing. What it won't be doing is crap behind my back w/o my permission..... like installing useless upgrades that change the menu structure, make the camera loose focus, and a 100 other things I have documented into a Word file I am keeping....

I am going to have to be fully convinced that the VZW 5.0 release is fully vetted before I wade into the Lolliflop waters. right now, it is just like the previous renditions of Android up until 4.4.4.(2) was released by VZW. yes, it took a 2nd release on 4.4.4 to fix the bluetooth they broke with the 1st release of 4.4.4

You see, I never, ever, wade off into muddy waters and getting myself all worked up because my phone is suddenly "broke". I sit back and watch the early birds fuss with their broken toys.... when it all settles down and is fixed, then I will install it. Same thing I do with MicroSloth's Windows operating systems. I give them a year or two years and then I install the "latest" update.... I am still using Win7 Pro because it is stable and isn't broke. Win8 is a joke, and I refuse to use it.
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, KK 4.4.4, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
I refuse to install LolliFLOP
Data and WiFi have been permanently turned OFF until VZW fixes this mess.

 

[neil154]

Well I have to admit you have a lot more patience than me. I agree with your philosophy about not jumping into the "latest and greatest" upgrade but I really feel that I cannot operate for any real length of time without wifi and data.

BTW, I am using Win 8.1 and have exactly zero problems. I installed "Classic Shell" and I essentially have all of the convenience of Win 7 with my new touchscreen PC.

 

[AZgl1500]

I am going to install Classic Shell on my friends 8.1 laptop tomorrow. He is a WinXP user. Yes, he has 6 workstations in his business and all of them are on WinXP. I just finished tuning all of them up to be sure they are doing "okay". and yes, they work just fine. Stripped out anything that was not OEM, his kids had installed a lot of crapware and toolbars showed up all over the place..... the kids are gone now,
He never clicks on links that will install robots, and we have AVAST and firewalls running, the routers have hardware firewalls... but his new laptop is giving him fits, he can't find anything on it when he wants it, so I told him today over lunch that we will just install Classic Shell tomorrow and then he will "feel at home again".

I have a Win8 laptop somewhere in this house, it got lost about a year ago because it slid under a divan or in a laundry basket, or something. anyway, it isn't in use, because I hate the OEM sliding windows concept. Classic Shell was not in vogue at the time, it came along right after I acquired it. I need to fix my ASUS Win7 Pro laptop, I dropped it and the hard drive quit....

I am retired in the winter months, so I have access to my 24" monitor and Win7 Pro desktop PC anytime I want the internet. In the summer, I work with the county highway department... and if I need the internet during the job's hours, I will toggle DATA on, do what I need, and toggle it right off. When I get home, I have the desktop.
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, KK 4.4.4, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
I refuse to install LolliFLOP
Data and WiFi have been permanently turned OFF until VZW fixes this mess.

 

[neil154]

We are getting of the topic of S5 and Lollipop but I do not believe using XP, especially in a business environment, is a safe practice, but we all make our own decisions.

 

[AZgl1500]

We are getting of the topic of S5 and Lollipop but I do not believe using XP, especially in a business environment, is a safe practice, but we all make our own decisions.

I tried to get him to switch over, but he refuses to do anything about it.
All of their business inventory and banking is done on an isolated WinXP workstation that has never seen the internet. It prints thru a USB port.

 

[philayl]

I have a Win8 laptop somewhere in this house, it got lost about a year ago because it slid under a divan or in a laundry basket, or something. anyway, it isn't in use, because I hate the OEM sliding windows concept.
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, KK 4.4.4, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
I refuse to install LolliFLOP
Data and WiFi have been permanently turned OFF until VZW fixes this mess.

Hi, Windows 8.1 does not need the sliding windows, or "Charms" as Microsoft labelled them, I have mine set to boot straight to the desktop, it's just like using Windows 7, I never see the Charms. Phil

 

[acraftylady]

On Verizon here with a non rooted phone running 4.4.4. Got the update last night and so far don't see any problems and all working the same as it was before the update. Mary

 

[s10stealth]

I have not yet upgraded to Lollipop on my S5 and want to hear from you all who were brave enough to upgrade about the bugs that appear to exist before I decide to upgrade.

I have a stock Verizon S5 currently running 4.4.4 and not rooted

What bugs are there?
How is battery life?
What do you not like about the changes?

Installed last night. Make sure you're plugged in or at least FULL battery. Very time consuming and let it sit for about 30 minutes before you touch anything. Whatever it's doing in the background takes a LONG time to complete. Don't let the absence of real icons scare you. Google Play Services download errors for a long time.

Lock screen notifications block/hide the "Show Owner Info".
LOTS of hesitations and touch screen delays.
more to come, I'm sure... :/

 

[neil154]

Installed last night. Make sure you're plugged in or at least FULL battery. Very time consuming and let it sit for about 30 minutes before you touch anything. Whatever it's doing in the background takes a LONG time to complete. Don't let the absence of real icons scare you. Google Play Services download errors for a long time.

Lock screen notifications block/hide the "Show Owner Info".
LOTS of hesitations and touch screen delays.
more to come, I'm sure... :/

Thanks for the information

 

[boatman]

My battery life, which was great has gotten worse by a bit. Not terrible or horrible, but not as good it seems. Further, I don't like the colors on texting, no contrast on the screen with them. Not sure how to change them. Not sure why I did this upgrade as I am from the if its not broke, don't fix it camp.

wish there was an easy way to go back, or someone to tell me why 5 is so much better and I should have it.

 

[boatman]

I should point out that i had read that i could respond to messages from my lock screen, which i thought would be great, it is always a pita to have to draw my pattern to read the text. Now with 5, i still have to do this, so i must be doing something wrong...

 

[neil154]

My battery life, which was great has gotten worse by a bit. Not terrible or horrible, but not as good it seems. Further, I don't like the colors on texting, no contrast on the screen with them. Not sure how to change them. Not sure why I did this upgrade as I am from the if its not broke, don't fix it camp.

wish there was an easy way to go back, or someone to tell me why 5 is so much better and I should have it.

Don't know if you have tried it yet but several reports on doing a battery pull has helped the battery life and also improved performance.

 

[jb4kats]

I have not yet upgraded to Lollipop on my S5 and want to hear from you all who were brave enough to upgrade about the bugs that appear to exist before I decide to upgrade.

I have a stock Verizon S5 currently running 4.4.4 and not rooted

What bugs are there?
How is battery life?
What do you not like about the changes?

I am on Sprint and just did the update and here are my issues:
Contact page is now flat and plain looking. They now look like they are all on a plain sheet of paper, menu bar has no lines between the icons and contact pic are now round instead of square and the menu color is now a different green color. Same goes for the Message app. The menu bar (top part of the app) is ORANGE and same goes for your contact pictures there , again, they are round instead of square. Reminds me of the new gmail where all the folders are color coded. I am not happy so I wish I could go back to 4.4.4. If I reset my phone will it revert back to that?

 

[neil154]

Sorry but a factory reset would still give you Lollipop. I don't think there is any way to go back to KitKat

 

[AZgl1500]

You can improve your battery life immensely if you will install MacroDroid and have it turn WiFi and DATA off when the screen is locked.

I get 2-3 days per charge cycle.
My wife's S5 gets 8-9 days per charge cycle (her phone is not used except as a phone)

see my signature for hints, it is very easy to set up the macros, PM me if you want hands on help.

* MacroDroid - Device Automation - Android Apps on Google Play

* MacroDroid Internet on/off as needed
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, 4.4.4 forever!, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
MacroDroid can help extend battery life
MacroDroid senses Screen off, turns Wifi & Data OFF
MacroDroid senses Screen on, turns WiFi & Data ON

 

[sully5981]

I upgraded the first day it came out (Feb 2?) first few hours were fine, only had google play showing an error? it went away after like 30 min. However, the next day I had issues with battery life. It was draining pretty quickly and I suspected maybe an app was not ready for lollipop.

That night I did a factory reboot and now the phone works flawlessly. I have installed almost all of my original apps (issues with (delayed lock working on 5.0). Battery life seems to be better. Everything seems a little smoother. Multi windows seems to support more apps. Notifications seem a little better. Other than that it is pretty much the same.

 

[Mark Martin]

My battery life, which was great has gotten worse by a bit. Not terrible or horrible, but not as good it seems. Further, I don't like the colors on texting, no contrast on the screen with them. Not sure how to change them. Not sure why I did this upgrade as I am from the if its not broke, don't fix it camp.

wish there was an easy way to go back, or someone to tell me why 5 is so much better and I should have it.

After you install update, backup your phone and then you must go into recovery mode (push simultaneously the volume up, the home button and the power button. Hold and wait till the phone vibrates, then use volume down to navigate to factory reset. Lastly power off phone. This update is in 2 parts and takes time to install. After the reboot the battery should run optimally. Forgot to mention to power the phone off before going into recovery mode. Hope this helps

 

[Joe Eris]

My battery life, which was great has gotten worse by a bit. Not terrible or horrible, but not as good it seems. Further, I don't like the colors on texting, no contrast on the screen with them. Not sure how to change them. Not sure why I did this upgrade as I am from the if its not broke, don't fix it camp.

wish there was an easy way to go back, or someone to tell me why 5 is so much better and I should have it.

......... I am experiencing the exact same FRUSTRATING B. S. so pissed! My battery life was perfect on KitKat. Now I have to charge it twice a day! I have updated almost all my apps and deleted everything I don't use, and still it now get hot very easily and I get about half the battery life I used to. Ugg I fall for this "update = better" bullshit every time. I feel stupid for trusting Samsung and Google.

 

[AZgl1500]

I feel sorry for those who are experiencing these issues.
These are the very reasons that I wait sometimes for more than a year to get the "fix" for bad upgrades.

Ala Win 7 Pro is still my OS of choice, totally ignoring all the crapware that Microsoft has released since then.

My S5 is still on 4.4.4 and I hope it stays that way. Lolliflop will never visit it unless version 5.1 which was announced today fixes everything folks are complaining about.

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/2...1-lollipop-rolling-out-to-nexus-devices-today
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, 4.4.4 forever!, ART
MyPhoneExplorer lets you access a broken phone while locked
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
MacroDroid can help extend battery life
MacroDroid senses Screen off, turns Wifi & Data OFF
MacroDroid senses Screen UnLock, turns Data ON

 

[ironass]

......... I am experiencing the exact same FRUSTRATING B. S. so pissed! My battery life was perfect on KitKat. Now I have to charge it twice a day! I have updated almost all my apps and deleted everything I don't use, and still it now get hot very easily and I get about half the battery life I used to. Ugg I fall for this "update = better" bullshit every time. I feel stupid for trusting Samsung and Google.

Why are you blaming Google and Samsung for your Verizon update?

Neither Google or Samsung are directly responsible for the firmware on your Verizon phone. As per #1.6 of 35 Galaxy S5 models - know yours??? the Verizon firmware is a heavily modified, by Verizon, hybrid of Samsung's TouchWiz firmware that is released directly by them and not via Samsung. Whilst there have been around 160 different Samsung S5 releases worldwide for Lollipop, it is the one, non Samsung, release for Verizon that is responsible for the majority of posts.

Please be aware that you are not running Google Lollipop or even Samsung's TouchWiz Lollipop but are in fact on Verizon's own version of Lollipop.

 

[EarlyMon]

I blame everyone in the supply chain every time a factory data reset fixes ota problems.

There's absolutely no reason that the installer scripts can be excused for not including the few lines to simply wipe the cache and Dalvik cache areas.

And that could as easily be the battery problem here as Verizon changes.

 

[ironass]

I blame everyone in the supply chain every time a factory data reset fixes ota problems.

There's absolutely no reason that the installer scripts can be excused for not including the few lines to simply wipe the cache and Dalvik cache areas.

And that could as easily be the battery problem here as Verizon changes.

I understand what you are saying EarlyMon. It is difficult on OTA updates to wipe the Dalvik cache though I would have thought. However, there does appear to be a disproportionate number of Verizon users requiring an FDR, for whatever reason, who report that their phone's are better for it, usually, afterwards.

The good news is, that it would appear that when upgrading from an ART enabled firmware, there does not seem to be the sort of problems that are experienced on the old Dalvik cache that required an FDR. Fingers crossed, we shall see.