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Note 7 - China

The_Chief said:
As I pointed out in another thread, this is an isolated case of Samsung going out on a limb to try and gain market share in China. I wouldn't expect these specs to be widely available until at least next year with the Note 8.

http://bgr.com/2016/08/11/galaxy-note-7-6gb-ram/

EDIT: And according to this, it's $300-$400 MORE expensive! Ridiculous!

http://phandroid.com/2016/08/11/galaxy-note-7-6gb-ram-china/
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Isn't that the unlocked, non-contract price, without the Verizon or Sprint or whatever subsidy? Phones here in China are sold at full retail price, no contracts.

We can pay the equivalent $800-900 for any top-end flagship Samsungs, and iPhones as well. I don't of course, I buy Chinese flagship devices, like Oppo for about half the price. :D
 
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the only possible advantage 6gb of ram would have today is with the VR headsets. beyond that i would think battery life would be more important. does anyone know if the 6gb version has a larger battery?
 
Who's ass does Dong-jin Koh have his head buried up inside of? It's so obvious that short changing the rest of the world on this phone makes Samsung either deeply disingenuous or deeply stupid that I refuse to believe it's just another oblivious misstep. You know what? The mere $60 more for the Chinese version of this phone isn't about Samsung cutting into their profits to make an inroad into a market they want to play in. It's telling us that they have gouged the rest of us so deeply for the 4GB/64GB version that they can afford to give away some of it in the 6GB/128GB version for the Chinese.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm going to keep a close eye on this issue in the coming months. If I see any opportunity or angle at all to push Samsung/Verizon into taking back the half castrated 4GB/64GB unit I'm receiving tomorrow, in exchange for this one most of us were actually looking for, I'm going to press them with it as hard as I can.

Regarding all the prattle about who would ever need more than 4GB of RAM, please save it for people who don't get that the more RAM you have, the better off you are - if what you want is the fastest performance possible with the greatest number of apps running. Plus, getting the longest useful life from the device before the creep of RAM demand from the O/S and apps can no longer be handled by what it's got.

Also, regarding higher power demands of more RAM and the impact on battery resources, it doesn't matter. Either way, what we really need in general are battery capacities that are 2-3 times what any of the manufacturers continue to unnecessarily limit us with. I plan on using an expansion battery case, regardless. I would LOVE the performance insurance of 6GB of RAM versus 4GB, and I would LOVE having 128GB of UFS high speed internal storage instead of just half that amount. Photo and video demands easily eat all of that performance up and still leave you wishing there was more.

In my (humble???) opinion ;)

http://phandroid.com/2016/08/18/samsung-galaxy-note-7-6gb-ram-china/
 
Nah, the way I see it is that indeed Samsung recognizes that China is one of the last huge markets that is still up for grabs in market share vs. iPhone since I believe they both are being beaten big time by local companies. So, Samsung is going to go that additional step to try to woo as much of a market that isn't ingrained in the iPhone but rather homegrown companies. As far as the rest of the world is concerned, their studies have probably shown them that the additional features would not be a significant factor so they're not going to spend more money making devices with features that people don't want. It sucks but the real power users like us likely make up a small portion of the Note buying public. For example, while I would love all those extras, none of my friends that are Note purchasers would care about 6gb ram and 128gb storage. We don't represent the majority of the Note users out there.
 
KupKrazy said:
Nah, the way I see it is that indeed Samsung recognizes that China is one of the last huge markets that is still up for grabs in market share vs. iPhone since I believe they both are being beaten big time by local companies. So, Samsung is going to go that additional step to try to woo as much of a market that isn't ingrained in the iPhone but rather homegrown companies. As far as the rest of the world is concerned, their studies have probably shown them that the additional features would not be a significant factor so they're not going to spend more money making devices with features that people don't want. It sucks but the real power users like us likely make up a small portion of the Note buying public. For example, while I would love all those extras, none of my friends that are Note purchasers would care about 6gb ram and 128gb storage. We don't represent the majority of the Note users out there.
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If so many users just don't care what's in the device at all, then put the full resources in all of them and charge everyone the pittance of an additional $60 to cover it. Instead that are playing games in the short sighted belief that manipulating their customers is a better approach to doing business than respecting and impressing them.
 
From what I see, especially here of course, many Chinese manufacturers are now producing devices with large internal storage and RAM, and most of these devices are just not distributed in North America, and western Europe AFAIK. They're mainly in China, and other Asian countries. So Samsung has to compete with them in those markets. Things like 128GB storage and 6GB RAM.
 
mikedt said:
From what I see, especially here of course, many Chinese manufacturers are now producing devices with large internal storage and RAM, and most of these devices are just not distributed in North America, and western Europe AFAIK. They're mainly in China, and other Asian countries. So Samsung has to compete with them in those markets. Things like 128GB storage and 6GB RAM.
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So what's the overall rationale? That we don't care as much over here about enjoying faster, larger performing devices, the sooner the better? Is the conclusion that we have to be more demanding, like the foreign customers implicitly are? Well then, consider this thread and others like it in part my contribution to that.
 
johnpjackson said:
So what's the overall rationale? That we don't care as much over here about enjoying faster, larger performing devices, the sooner the better? Is the conclusion that we have to be more demanding, like the foreign customers implicitly are? Well then, consider this thread and others like it in part my contribution to that.
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I'm sure you do care. But I think the rationales are the US carriers, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, et-al. You buy from us, and can only have what we're willing to stock, basically. Especially so with the CDMA/EVDO networks.

I'm sure this is why we get so many posts about importing phones from China, or Hong Kong, and then come unstuck because often the things don't have the US bands and modes.
 
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mikedt said:
I'm sure you do care. But I think the rationales are the US carriers, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, et-al. You buy from us, and can only have what we're willing to stock, basically. Especially so with the CDMA/EVDO networks.

I'm sure this is why we get so many posts about importing phones from China, or Hong Kong, and then come unstuck because often the things don't have the US bands and modes.
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Exactly - I wouldn't presume to think a device made for another country would automatically be expected to accommodate our infrastructure here. I wouldn't pursue doing it unless I had tracked down all the details and confirmed them, first :)
 
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