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Will the Eris be able to run 2.2?

There are actually no real hardware specs for the android OS. Hence all the clone makers porting it to their phones.

The eris should be able to run the base 2.2 OS however the widgets and apps are another story. I think many are lumping this all together. Recoding sense to be more efficient might help a tad.

I really like that 2.2 dock bar, pretty slick.
 
HTC announced today that all Android phones released in 2010 will get FroYo. They didn't say anything about pre-2010 phones. I'd strongly suspect that there will be no official 2.2 for the Eris.
 
The eris should be able to run the base 2.2 OS however the widgets and apps are another story. I think many are lumping this all together.

That's what I've been doing.

So, the 2.2 OS might need serious widget and stock applications tweaking.. that fits in with my original thinking about why, even now, the Eris seems laggy to many users.
 
I just hate to see people ensnared by the old pc logic that a new os will always place a higher demand on system resources.

This is a very, very important point for people to take to heart. This isn't Windows, where every release is a bigger porker than the previous one.

Story: In 1994, I ran Linux (the same kernel that underpins Android) for the first time on a 66 MHz i486 with 16MB of RAM. That machine was my desktop, a web server, a firewall and a few other things until I could no longer conveniently get a distribution that would boot on a 486. (I think that may have been as late as 2002.) During the entire time, as people spent time working on the kernel (and some userland things like the C compiler and libraries), I could do more with the same machine because the OS got better.

Android -- the entire package -- is going to go through the same thing, and it will take time. The kernel has had pretty close to 20 years of tuning on Intel-based PCs, and as more people have a reason to tune the ARM-specific code, it will improve. There's probably a lot of room to improve the upper layers of the stack, too. Enabling JIT in Dalvik is going to free up a lot of CPU cycles.

CPUs in the 500 MHz bracket are going to be around for awhile. They don't score a lot of nerd points with the crowd here, but they're plentiful and inexpensive enough to enable putting a lot more Android in a lot more hands globally. And this, folks, is something you really want to happen.

2.1 made my eris run faster, and they say 2.2 is even faster still. Why wouldn't I believe them?
You're hallucinating. The Eris can't run 2.1, remember? :rolleyes:

Come to think of it, I must be hallucinating, too. :D

--Mark
 
Windows 7 runs better then Vista on the same hardware..

If you look at the entire franchise on a longer time scale, every major release (2.0, 3.x, NT, 95, 98, XP and Vista) has required more hardware than its predecessors to run acceptably. (And yes, I've been through all of those transitions. That makes me old.)

My question to you would be whether you can run Vista or 7 on a machine you bought five years ago to run XP, not the machine you bought last year to run Vista.

--Mark
 
This article leads me to believe there is next to no chance of eris ever getting 2.2. Froyo seems like an update they're only working on for phones coming out this year. Case in point:

"There's plenty to get excited about in Android 2.2 AKA Froyo, but HTC offered some not very surprising reassurance to people who bought their most recent handsets, including the Droid Incredible, the EVO, the Desire, or, soon, the myTouch Slide
 
I dont keep machines that long lol.. but yes if I had a 5 year old machine it would be on Windows 7 right now..

I do have a 3 year old laptop that runs Windows 7 like a champ.. it will probably meet its maker soon though.. has an old dual core Pentium in it..
 
I don't know; it looks to me like the Eris is pretty much at its best with no more features than it has now.

I'm not sure, but I'm thinking that the 2.2 would be edging just a bit closer to lag and crash territory for the Eris cpu and display circuitry.

Wondering about battery life, as well.

I agree with Frisco, the Eris is pretty much at the top of its game with the latest update. Don't get me wrong; I'd LOVE 2.2 for my Eris. Its plenty fast now, but faster is (almost) always better.
 
If you look at the entire franchise on a longer time scale, every major release (2.0, 3.x, NT, 95, 98, XP and Vista) has required more hardware than its predecessors to run acceptably. (And yes, I've been through all of those transitions. That makes me old.)

My question to you would be whether you can run Vista or 7 on a machine you bought five years ago to run XP, not the machine you bought last year to run Vista.

--Mark

What he said + 1

I'm using the Laptop I bought in 2006 for XP and am now running Win7 all I had to do was keep adding memory...Eris won't let me do that to keep up with new releases. It's got to hit a wall someplace and my money is on 2.2 as the wall.
 
Maybe.. but the question isn't can it run 2.2, I mean my old 512kb Laptop can run Win 7, the question is what would the trade off be.

A 512kb laptop couldn't run Win7. I doubt it could even run MSDOS very well. Hopefully you meant 512 MB.

I would really like to see 2.2 on the Eris. I really would. I as far as I know, there isn't any major reason why it couldn't be done. But the real question is if HTC will release an official version. Well, if we see any leaks, we probably have a good chance that it might be coming.
 

Well to quote Engadget "our understanding is that both of them are ridiculously unstable and unpractical for actual use at this point."

So who here will be the first to put it on their phone and tell us what we're missing. BTW I'll still take the bet about it hitting the wall.

But then again I lost at poker last night so maybe I shouldn't be betting on anything!!!
 
I'm trying to figure out how a discussion on froyo turned into a live wallpaper debate.
I'm trying to figure out how internet forums bring out so much misplaced bravado, definitive statements and misinformed opinion - especially when there is so much history proving these people are continually just plain wrong!
Will 2.2 run on an Eris? Run, maybe. Officially released, maybe. Is it so hard to admit that no one really knows at this point?
 
I'm trying to figure out how internet forums bring out so much misplaced bravado, definitive statements and misinformed opinion - especially when there is so much history proving these people are continually just plain wrong!
Will 2.2 run on an Eris? Run, maybe. Officially released, maybe. Is it so hard to admit that nobody really knows at this point?

Not for some of us. ;)
 
I will bet money that not only will it work, but that it will speed up the Eris. The problem is, I am skeptical that the Eris will see such upgrade (officially) because of Sense.

Edit: Just saw couple of posts above me. I will readily admit that I cannot say anything with certainty but I'm still willing to bet on it though. :D
 
I will bet money that not only will it work, but that it will speed up the Eris.

I cannot say anything with certainty but I'm still willing to bet on it though. :D

Being uncertain but having a hunch it will run nicely on the Eris hardware is still not knowing it will (or won't).

So, you're with us, man, you're with us. :p ;) ..etc.. :D
 
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