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2.3 Gingerbread

Androidalltheway said:
whos getting it first is what I want to know? if it releases for the N1 first, that does me no good, I have the evo, which was the first US phone to get 2.2 a few months ago
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That is not even remotely true. The Nexus One was the first US phone to get 2.2. Then I believe the original Droid got it next.
 
ImaYam said:
THeres misinformation on that too. The g2 cpu isnt snapdragon.. Its scorpion (this phone's processor isn't the same as the 'dragons used by other phones up to now. It will feature Adreno 205 GPU (rather than Adreno 200), which is much much faster, and its not "dual core", I meant it was capable of core-threading, times two, making it like the pentium 4's with Hyper Threading (remember those?) before the dual cores came out.
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I'm sorry, this is still incorrect.

-The CPU is not called Scorpion. The CPU (Snapdragon) is made of of two key components; the instruction set (ARMv7), and the MPCore (Scorpion). The G2 uses a Snapdragon.

-No need to bring up the Adreno 200/205 difference, as I covered that in my last post.

-Core-threading is not a term. You're thinking of multi-threading or hyper-threading. This is not supported by the ARMv7 instruction set, nor the Scorpion MPCore. Also, neither Cortex A8 nor Cortex A9 support multi-threading per core (though A9 supports up to quad-core configurations). The only mobile CPU with traction today that supports multi-threading on a single core is the Apple A4/Samsung Hummingbird, but it gets an at best 20% boost, and a real world boost of 5-10%, placing it nowhere near Intel's Hyper Threading (which saw real world boosts over 30%). Under no real world scenario would hyper threading ever deliver a boost of two-fold as you claim.

The G2's Snapdragon is nothing more than an 800mhz Snapdragon with a better GPU, and a smaller die process resulting in better battery life. Take the GPU out of the equation and overclock the CPU to 1ghz and you will get the same performance as the N1 (not taking into account differences in software).

I'm not a big fan of Wikipedia of a single source, but this page does have well sourced information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)

Basically, the changes from 1st gen Snapdragon to 2nd gen, as I've laid out, was smaller die process (65nm down to 45nm), and upgraded GPU (Adreno 200 bumped to Adreno 205). The 3rd gen will see the Adreno 220 and supposedly use a Cortex A9-based MPCore. That is when you will see a difference in CPU performance clock for clock.

If you have any links showing that the G2's CPU is NOT a Snapdragon, or that it uses a variation of Hyper threading, I'd like to see it.
 
Since it's basically a Galaxy S, hopefully those of us that have stuck with Samsung will be rewarded with 2.3. *crosses fingers*
 
I went to sprint today and asked them when 2.3 would be available, he told me not anytime soon, so at this point, its nice 2.3 is out, but unfortunate for evo owners that we are not getting it for a while
 
For reasons that I can't (yet) fathom, my HTC Desire has just updated to 2.29.405.2, which seems to be somewhere between Froyo 2.2 and Gingerbread 2.3! I haven't so far checked what differences, subtle or otherwise, there are between this version and 2.2.

What next .... ???
 
jradicle11 said:
Actually, isn't the goal of Gingerbread to pretty up the UI so other companies don't need to install their own?
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Yea, that was before the iPad was released and became big; and before Google hired the UI guy from Palm that help with WebOS. Before all that, Gingerbread was Android 3.0.

I think what happend was that the UI redo was taken out of Gingerbread, making it version 2.3. I think the UI redo will be in Honeycomb. This coupled with the optimization for tablets and other things (Google Music?) will be in Android 3.0 aka Honeycomb.
 
Yeah I think that although they do say a lot of stuff in their interviews. We need to take into account that they need to adjust themselves to keep themselves competitive.
To be fair there is another team which was working on Honeycomb and from what I heard they are very close to be finished. So maybe it will include everything that we desired from Gingerbread, maybe not. Fingers crossed it does!
 
Androidalltheway said:
I went to sprint today and asked them when 2.3 would be available, he told me not anytime soon, so at this point, its nice 2.3 is out, but unfortunate for evo owners that we are not getting it for a while
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well the Nexus S isn't out officially until the 16th, so it'll be just after that
 
Androidalltheway said:
I went to sprint today and asked them when 2.3 would be available, he told me not anytime soon, so at this point, its nice 2.3 is out, but unfortunate for evo owners that we are not getting it for a while
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I'm thinking if you wanna be the first to get it consistently then you'll have to always have a Nexus device.
 
Bnice said:
How do you know this?,have you had some hands on experience with gingerbread?
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Look at the videos, the UI is relatively the same. There is a black notification bar and a few other small visual changes but other than that, it's looks nearly the same.
 
Androidalltheway said:
I went to sprint today and asked them when 2.3 would be available, he told me not anytime soon, so at this point, its nice 2.3 is out, but unfortunate for evo owners that we are not getting it for a while
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While I don't doubt this is true, the credibility of a random Sprint employee versus the credibility of a kid of the street are about the same. That is to say they wouldn't know any better than you are I would.
 
jradicle11 said:
Look at the videos, the UI is relatively the same. There is a black notification bar and a few other small visual changes but other than that, it's looks nearly the same.
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I'm just curious what you would want different. I could see adding a couple tweaks like LauncherPro has...multiple docks, user-specified number of screens, etc, but I don't know what else I would change with the UI.
 
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