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32Gb phone not enough

Simon_Gardner

Simon_Gardner

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I must be an app fiend but with Kitkat only allowing apps to be installed on the phone's 32Gb along with some other functions, I'm beginning to find the 32Gb rather limiting. As I recall there was supposed to be a 64Gb Note 3 that nobody ever saw.

Just me needing to keep an eye on that 32Gb limit on the phone itself (as opposed to the microSD)?
 
A thoroughly modern problem Simon.

I foresee, in the not too distant future a mobile device with no "mass memory" at all. All your media, and indeed apps will be tied to your Google account and be accessed over the Web. Cloud computing will be all there is. Let us hope that mobile networks are up to the task by then.
 
dynomot said:
A thoroughly modern problem Simon.

I foresee, in the not too distant future a mobile device with no "mass memory" at all. All your media, and indeed apps will be tied to your Google account and be accessed over the Web. Cloud computing will be all there is. Let us hope that mobile networks are up to the task by then.
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I don't foresee that at all. It'll be a long, long time before there's ubiquitous, fast enough service coverage EVERYwhere, to make a storage-less phone/device practical.
 
Screenshots_2014-06-03-12-05-33.jpg I run kitkat on a t-mobile note 3 see the attached. i click on setting, app management and i am given the choice of moving it to sd
 
you will not be able to move the pre-loaded apps, just the one you install, if you go to settings, app management an slid the screen to sd card you will see the apps that you down loaded and where they are installed.
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Simon_Gardner said:
I must be an app fiend but with Kitkat only allowing apps to be installed on the phone's 32Gb along with some other functions, I'm beginning to find the 32Gb rather limiting. As I recall there was supposed to be a 64Gb Note 3 that nobody ever saw.

Just me needing to keep an eye on that 32Gb limit on the phone itself (as opposed to the microSD)?
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I haven't reached the point of limitation yet, but I'm getting there fairly quick. What's funny is, I was definitely going to get the 64gb, had it been released, but US never saw it and from what I remember, it was extremely limited in Asia only.

It's part of the reason I have been waiting on a follow-up of the Note 8 tablet. There were supposed to be higher storage versions available, but they never released here, so if Samsung releases a follow-up to the Note 8, I'll likely be upgrading my tablet.

From all the rumors, the Note 4 will still be limited to 32gb internal, so I'm banking on the fact that 64gb versions won't be making regular appearances anytime in the near future.
 
dynomot said:
A thoroughly modern problem Simon.

I foresee, in the not too distant future a mobile device with no "mass memory" at all. All your media, and indeed apps will be tied to your Google account and be accessed over the Web.
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This would be really sh1t for me where there is no reception - which is frequent. I see no prospect of the mobile networks in my country bothering on economic grounds with coverage in very low or zero population areas. Ditto some other countries I've been in.
 
drexappeal said:
I haven't reached the point of limitation yet, but I'm getting there fairly quick. What's funny is, I was definitely going to get the 64gb, had it been released, but US never saw it and from what I remember, it was extremely limited in Asia only.

It's part of the reason I have been waiting on a follow-up of the Note 8 tablet. There were supposed to be higher storage versions available, but they never released here, so if Samsung releases a follow-up to the Note 8, I'll likely be upgrading my tablet.

From all the rumors, the Note 4 will still be limited to 32gb internal, so I'm banking on the fact that 64gb versions won't be making regular appearances anytime in the near future.
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Oh that's awful - and surprising. 32Gb. You can never have too much storage/memory.
 
Simon_Gardner said:
Oh that's awful - and surprising. 32Gb. You can never have too much storage/memory.
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I had deleted some games, just to make sure I didn't hit the limit. And also changed my Flixster movie downloads to the microSD card, since Flixster added support for that.

Although, I haven't checked if Kit Kat nullified that.
 
Simon_Gardner said:
Thanks. I had thought Kitkat had stopped that - so problem solved. At least until my microSD is full.

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I just updated my Note 8 to Kitkat, but there were quite a few apps that wouldn't work properly after the update, so I ended up moving all apps back to the internal storage.

I really don't understand what Google did. With ICS, they took away the capability. With Jelly Bean, it was brought back. Then with KitKat, they kinda took it away.

The one that kills me right now is moving files from internal to external and vice versa (like downloaded pics or videos). I can't use any of my favorite file explorer apps (Astro or Solid Explorer) to move the files from one to another. The only way I've been able to move files is using the OEM file explorer.
 
The problem is after you move things to sd the phone will not always utilize the app or file properly...I moved music to external sd and had to install a different player because stock player would not pull music from external sd...if it works great...go for it.
I would move everything I could back to phone or back up to pc before I had to do a reset tho, if it ever came to that for you.
 
lterry913 said:
The problem is after you move things to sd the phone will not always utilize the app or file properly...I moved music to external sd and had to install a different player because stock player would not pull music from external sd...if it works great...go for it.
I would move everything I could back to phone or back up to pc before I had to do a reset tho, if it ever came to that for you.
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Music was fine for me because I use Poweramp. But I heard of people having issues using oem player and Google play Music
 
Most apps only move a tiny fraction of the app to sd now. All the huge apps like games leave most of the app (95%) in the internal storage. Stock apps2sd function was near worthless even before the Kitkat killing card writes for apps.
 
drexappeal said:
I just updated my Note 8 to Kitkat, but there were quite a few apps that wouldn't work properly after the update, so I ended up moving all apps back to the internal storage.

I really don't understand what Google did. With ICS, they took away the capability. With Jelly Bean, it was brought back. Then with KitKat, they kinda took it away.

The one that kills me right now is moving files from internal to external and vice versa (like downloaded pics or videos). I can't use any of my favorite file explorer apps (Astro or Solid Explorer) to move the files from one to another. The only way I've been able to move files is using the OEM file explorer.
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Google does not care and have been vocal about their hate for external storage since the G1 days. Were it not for Apple buyers scarfing up most allocations of flash memory for the iPhone and iPod for two years, Android would be the same as iOS in regards to external storage.

When you look at external storage, thank Apple buyers. Sure Google is still trying kill it, but maybe consumers and manufacturers can collectively push back to stop the trending death.
 
It certainly means you wouldn't want to buy another 32Gb phone. I can't believe they really are talking about a 32Gb Note 4.
 
rushmore said:
Google does not care and have been vocal about their hate for external storage since the G1 days. Were it not for Apple buyers scarfing up most allocations of flash memory for the iPhone and iPod for two years, Android would be the same as iOS in regards to external storage.

When you look at external storage, thank Apple buyers. Sure Google is still trying kill it, but maybe consumers and manufacturers can collectively push back to stop the trending death.
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Yeah, Google has been trying to push cloud storage for so long and I hate relying on the cloud. Until all wireless providers have flawless connection wherever a person goes, cloud storage won't be a valid option for me.
 
32 GB is the absolute minimum I'm willing to go with these days what with the huge game file sizes around. I wish the network providers like t-mobile, verizon would give us higher options when they become available but they act like they don't even know those options exist.
 
dontpanicbobby said:
32 GB is the absolute minimum I'm willing to go with these days what with the huge game file sizes around. I wish the network providers like t-mobile, verizon would give us higher options when they become available but they act like they don't even know those options exist.
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The Note 3 is 32GB on Verizon, and offering anything above that is almost assuredly to be a waste of stock in an Android flagship, since there are many Android flagships (unlike Apple Flagships) so the Carriers end up with a bunch of phones that didn't sell at the higher SKUs (which are typically prices up $50-100 per tier).

The Carriers have no issues carrying higher SKU iPhones, because when someone wants an iPhone 64GB they aren't given a choice of 5 64GB iOS device choices. They know every user that wants that will buy that specific model. When a new iPhone model comes out they usually sell the older ones off cheaper or they go back to Apple for Warranty Replacements, etc. and get replaced by high SKU new models with lower SKU 'C' or Older Models.

Also, the External SD Card gives little incentive for the carriers to carry those higher SKUs. The average user should have *no* issues with a 32GB device if they put their media on an SD Card. Devices from Samsung have an OEM File Manager that can do anything on the SD Card, so the KK changes are a bad retort for that...
 
Also, the recent changes to Edge plans makes it even harder to push for them. Currently a Note 3 on Edge is like $29/mo. With the recent AT&T/Verizon Edge-type plan changes, it is a ~$35/mo device. And while $6 doesn't sound like a lot, it looks like a lot when your bill is already over $200/mo. to start off.

That means if a 64GB Note 4 is $799.99 ($100 more than a 32GB Variant), then the monthly payment on the phone on those plans is going to be like $40.

Not many people are going to buy a phone that expensive. Most of the people willing to do that, have chosen Apple and I don't think I've heard of anyone with a 32GB iPhone that wishes they had more storage (16GB users, yes, but even I didn't get a SKU that small when I had the 5S, I got a 32GB device).
 
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