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At the risk of feeding a troll...

Are you just scanning through, finding numbers, and assigning them to whatever you want?

mcatdtDROID said:
again, that shows that Droid uses MULTIPLE (ie - more than one) platforms. And the dev proves him wrong by saying there isn't 100, but rather 2? It's still multiple platforms that IOS does not do
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Nowhere in the article does anybody say anything about there being 2 platforms vs 100. What somebody does say, is that they only have 2 developers working on their app for Android, instead of the many developers that Jobs' rant about "100 different version on 244 different handsets" would imply.

To simplify it for you: Jobs' implication is that all the versions on all the handsets makes it a nightmare to develop for Android. The developer responds with "lol, no, it only takes 2 guys to do the job".

you want to argue the fact that "big bad steve jobs said we have 100 platforms, when we only have 2"
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Again, nobody said anything about 2 platforms. The point the developers (and I) are making is that the number of platforms and handsets is irrelevant. Ranting that fragmentation is going to make it a nightmare to develop for Android is turning out to be as true as it being harder to make hats for people if they don't all have the same hair color.

So on top of being right, he's got whoever wrote this argument to back up his claims under the guise of proving him wrong. Classic pwnag3. Android devs back up his claim trying to disprove the exact quantity. lol
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Just to reiterate: Fragmentation is not an issue like Jobs and some others would have you believe. THAT is the point. There could be 1,000 different versions on 650 different handsets and it still wouldn't be harder to develop for Android. Jobs is bashing Android on what's turning out to be a non-issue.
 
mcatdtDROID said:
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I also love the fact that despite everyone here swearing Droid is better, why isn't AT&T picking up a droid phone, yet all the talk is when Verizon is getting a version of Iphone.
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Seriously? OK, I might have to take back my previous comment about you possibly being a troll. You're clearly just woefully uninformed on the topic.

First of all you use "Droid" as if it referred to the entire Android lineup, not a select number of Motorola phones. "Droid" is a tradename owned by Motorola. (Actually owned by Lucasfilm, but licensed by Motorola for the phones)

Secondly, AT&T already sells several Android handsets. Specifically, the Samsung Captivate, Motorola Backflip, HTC Aria, Motorola Flipout, and the Sony Ericsson XPeria X10.
 
mcatdtDROID said:
yet it's droid fans that are wetting their pants in anticipation of the iphone introduction...


besides, those listed are 'b-list' droids
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There is another uneducated statement. Just which "Droid fans" are "wetting their pants in anticipation of the iphone"? Nobody that I know who owns an Android phone now. And none that I've heard from on this forum?? :confused:
 
mcatdtDROID said:
yet it's droid fans that are wetting their pants in anticipation of the iphone introduction...


besides, those listed are 'b-list' droids
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captivate 'b-list' ? lol..

Captivate nor aria are considered "b-list". And more damage is done to them by at&t than anything else.

Sure a lot of android users may hope ship.. It will be interesting to see how many stick with iphone and what happens long term..

However, as a droid fan, I am wetting myself for verizon to get the iphone.

Why? because, I'm on AT&T!

I actually know more at&t droid fans who want verizon to get iphone than verizon customers...
 
mcatdtDROID said:
yet it's droid fans that are wetting their pants in anticipation of the iphone introduction...
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Really? Which ones? The most common reaction I've seen to the repeated rumors of the iPhone coming to whatever network is "crap, now our data network is gonna be flooded with iPhone users fleeing AT&T".

besides, those listed are 'b-list' droids
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Who cares if they're A-list or D-list phones? You were gloating about the apparent lack of interest in AT&T picking up any "droid" phone at all.
 
mcatdtDROID said:
maybe you better rely on someone else besides people who agree with Steve jobs, when they think they are proving him wrong.

"andriod has 100 platforms....... nuh uh, we only have 2 (damn, we just owned him by proving the underlying point of the thread, that we have more than 1 platform. high-five for us.... "
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What are you talking about?

Jobs:
“Compare this to iPhone where every handset works the same. Twitter client TwitterDeck [sic] recently launched their Android app, and had to contend with 100 different versions of software on 244 different handsets. That’s a daunting challenge.
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Iain Dodsworth from Tweetdeck:
“Did we at any point say it was a nightmare developing on Android? errr nope, no we didn’t. It wasn’t.”
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Danny Sullivan from Tweetdeck:
“… yes exactly! We only have 2 guys developing on Android TweetDeck so that shows how small an issue fragmentation is”
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... i'll spell this out: Steve Jobs went on a rant about how fragmented Android is, in particular how it's bad for the consumer because app developers are facing "daunting challenges".

The app developers he specifically listed said this is patently false.

We laugh at Steve Jobs for straight up lieing.
 
lunatic59 said:
I do. As a matter of fact, I've got a rat around here somewhere. If you give me a minute, I'll amputate his ass for you.

It's funny you never see two mechanics arguing over whether Craftsman is going to put Snap-On out of business. ... uh ... just googled it ... I better stock up on rats.
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There is a market for both Craftsman and Snap-on. Just like the market for iPhone and Android. And please, no rat asses for me, thanks;)

Tangent said:
That kind of thing tends to happen on forums ya know... Good luck finding a forum dedicated to any brand that doesn't have that. You'll always find "Android vs iPhone", "Ford vs Chevy", "Windows vs Mac"... It kind of comes with the territory when you put together a collection of people who support the same product. The only way to avoid it (mostly) is to stay out of any "lounge" or "off topic" sections.
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And, I know that there will always be iPhone/Apple posts in these forums. My problem is that people see the need to post a NEW THREAD every single time a tiny insignificant (IMO) news story comes out about Steve Jobs $hit being the wrong color. I mean seriously, lets condense a little bit, and not clutter up a very useful, and fun forum with all this Apple vs. Android drivel. I am all for useful banter, and even heated debates, but it has come to the point that there are as many iPhone threads in the lounge as Android. (I know I exaggerate a little bit, but only to make my point;))
 
Musky said:
There is another uneducated statement. Just which "Droid fans" are "wetting their pants in anticipation of the iphone"? Nobody that I know who owns an Android phone now. And none that I've heard from on this forum?? :confused:
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article after article, on here and every other droid forum talking about it. It has the gadget world abuzz. not to mention the "delayed til possibly 2012" thread on here that has everyone sad.

I bet iphone forums aren't worrying about if they will ever get the Incredible....

Keep playing the underdog card though.


you know what I like most about my droid? is it does offer Iphone incentive to keep improving. Do I ever think Droid will surpass ios.... no.

If/when iphone comes to verizon, I'll look into it. Honestly, I don't know enough about it since it's never been available to me, I didn't learn about it. So I got the best phone for me, that was available to me. That was the D2. But I'm not going to snub the opportunity to see what iphone is about because I have some weird product loyalty with android
 
article after article, on here and every other droid forum talking about it. It has the gadget world abuzz. not to mention the "delayed til possibly 2012" thread on here that has everyone sad.
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Yes article after article discussing it, mostly to see how your God Steve handles it, but just because it's an interesting topic doesn't mean all those articles are from people who are waiting to switch to it! Dream on! LOL
 
Tangent said:
At the risk of feeding a troll...

Are you just scanning through, finding numbers, and assigning them to whatever you want?



Nowhere in the article does anybody say anything about there being 2 platforms vs 100. What somebody does say, is that they only have 2 developers working on their app for Android, instead of the many developers that Jobs' rant about "100 different version on 244 different handsets" would imply.

To simplify it for you: Jobs' implication is that all the versions on all the handsets makes it a nightmare to develop for Android. The developer responds with "lol, no, it only takes 2 guys to do the job".



Again, nobody said anything about 2 platforms. The point the developers (and I) are making is that the number of platforms and handsets is irrelevant. Ranting that fragmentation is going to make it a nightmare to develop for Android is turning out to be as true as it being harder to make hats for people if they don't all have the same hair color.



Just to reiterate: Fragmentation is not an issue like Jobs and some others would have you believe. THAT is the point. There could be 1,000 different versions on 650 different handsets and it still wouldn't be harder to develop for Android. Jobs is bashing Android on what's turning out to be a non-issue.
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If we all know a certain someone is a troll, just ignore the person. If that person has nothing better to do than to troll & cause conflict on an Android forum, that just goes to show that:


1.) That person is jealous of something or someone here. ( or both )

2.) They are purposely seeking conflict just by being here.

3.) They are more than likely going to lie through their teeth anyways, so why bother?
 
mcatdtDROID said:
article after article, on here and every other droid forum talking about it. It has the gadget world abuzz. not to mention the "delayed til possibly 2012" thread on here that has everyone sad.

I bet iphone forums aren't worrying about if they will ever get the Incredible....

Keep playing the underdog card though.


you know what I like most about my droid? is it does offer Iphone incentive to keep improving. Do I ever think Droid will surpass ios.... no.

If/when iphone comes to verizon, I'll look into it. Honestly, I don't know enough about it since it's never been available to me, I didn't learn about it. So I got the best phone for me, that was available to me. That was the D2. But I'm not going to snub the opportunity to see what iphone is about because I have some weird product loyalty with android
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