Another Iphoner to Droid

[rubiconjp]

Never read any manual. Neither did I with iPhone. First week, there was a bit of stumbling around and some fleeting regrets. Two weeks for most things to become second nature.

 

[dan330]

So when you say it took you two weeks...
Do you mean that is how long before things like opening a text, making a call, etc. became second nature? Or were you literally sitting there reading manuals about how to open a web browser, download an app, etc.?

you are being sarcastic???

if anything took 2 weeks of reading... hell if it took 2 hours of reading to learn how to do the basic things like what you said.. it would be more fail than windows KIN!

 

[JevyJav]

@ gobbles -I'm on at&t and and if I was gonna get any android phone on this carrier I would just wait for the nexus s to be released... Actually that's exactly what i'm doing right now dude dont get a captivate. Patience young Padawan. Just hold out at least untill january

 

[Gobbles]

@ gobbles -I'm on at&t and and if I was gonna get any android phone on this carrier I would just wait for the nexus s to be released... Actually that's exactly what i'm doing right now dude dont get a captivate. Patience young Padawan. Just hold out at least untill january

Haha, Thanks for the heads up. The nexus s definitely does look tempting. I thought it was going to t-mobile however, is AT&T getting it now?
Thanks for the info.

 

[JesseDegenerate]

Hey everyone. I'm new to these parts and just need a bit of advise.
I currently have an iphone 3g and have been pretty happy with it until recently. Lately the phone just seems to be slow and has been messing up a lot lately. I also have gotten pretty bored with it.
A friend of mine just got a droid 2 and I think android is the next os for me. The only problem is that I am stuck on At&t because I'm on a family plan. So my best option would be the captivate. I have messed with the phone in the store and it seems to be pretty nice but after reading a bit I'm a little on the fence.
Is there any other android phones coming to at&t anytime soon? I really like the big screen of the captivate but I'm just not sure about the samsung devise. The HTC aria seems to be alright but to small for my liking and honestly I'd rather have a bigger processor and screen.

Thanks in advance.

I'm a dual user.

I have a iPhone 4 for personal use, and a HTC Droid Incredible for work. Both work fine.

The iPhone 4 definitely feels faster, than any Android i've used, but that's not saying that much, as my 2007 original iphone actually scrolls through large icons and webpages faster - it's just open gl es.

I don't know why my co-workers samsung feels faster than my incredible, especially when she's running 2.1 and i'm running 2.2, but it's noticeable. Wondering if it was HTC sense.

If your stuck on AT&T i would really say stay iOS. More apps and a way more customizable OS with far more people working in it.

Don't get me wrong, i love android, just look at my iphone

 

[marefin]

well here's the difference in how customization works between android and iOS: you don't have to root an android to customize it, but you do with an iPhone. all the customizations i have done are not based on anything that required rooting my phone (yes my phone is rooted). i had an iphone before as well, but i had to jailbreak it to do any customizations to it. and even than the customization didn't go as far. i was able to customize my captivate way better than my iphone out of the box.

 

[JesseDegenerate]

well here's the difference in how customization works between android and iOS: you don't have to root an android to customize it, but you do with an iPhone. all the customizations i have done are not based on anything that required rooting my phone (yes my phone is rooted). i had an iphone before as well, but i had to jailbreak it to do any customizations to it. and even than the customization didn't go as far. i was able to customize my captivate way better than my iphone out of the box.

Why root then? Probably to allow things that verizon / sprint w/e doesn't allow you to do. (such as uninstall the 6 or 7 apps verizon installed on my incredible)

Oh wait, that's why I Jailbreak. (and root) Maybe were not so different.

Please though, your sig? Cmon. Were a little older than that, no?

 

[lunatic59]

Why root then? ...

The point is that with an Android phone you do not have to root to customize it extensively. The iPhone must be jailbroken to even customize it a little bit. It's not so much a technical point as a philosophical one.

Please though, your sig? Cmon. Were a little older than that, no?

Actually, a good many people in these forums are *not* older than that. Give them something more constructive than indignation and let them learn from your maturity.

 

[JesseDegenerate]

The point is that with an Android phone you do not have to root to customize it extensively. The iPhone must be jailbroken to even customize it a little bit. It's not so much a technical point as a philosophical one.



Actually, a good many people in these forums are *not* older than that. Give them something more constructive than indignation and let them learn from your maturity.

Yes, and my point was many root on Android for the same philosophical point, to remove carrier bloatware/adware, not present on the iphone. All phones have strong points and weak points. Verizon is no saint

As for AT&T's data coverage, Here in NYC, on my speed test apps (use the same one for android and the iphone) The iphone on AT&T gets 1.8-2mb down on average to the Incredible's 1.1mb. The verizon test are always more consistant tho.

Go over the hudson to Jersey, any further than the NYC towers reach you and suddenly AT&T's download speeds go down to .3-.5 mb, and Verizon's go up a bit to 1.2mb. sigh.

 

[marefin]

the ONLY reason i rooted my captivate was to fix the lag issue. i still have all the apps the bloatware that came with the phone. i had removed them when i rooted the first time, but i had gotten a replacement phone, and after rooting, i haven't removed those apps. and i have come to grips with the reality that bloat wares will exist (on everything but iPhone). there is NO customization that i did that required me to root my phone, none what so ever. but again, you keep missing the point that with android you don't HAVE to root to have the freedom to do what you want (to a certain extent). whereas, with an iPhone you can only do what apple wants to let you do. and if you want to step outside of that line you have to jailbreak. and customization and adding widgets and what not requires iPhone users to cross that line.


and as far as my sig goes, i happen to like it. i don't particularly care if you like it or not. it's my view (to a certain extent). is it immature? depends on how you look at it. to me, it's just funny

 

[JesseDegenerate]

Android still prohibits you from basic things like file system access, ssh, etc. One point was it's still a walled garden.

I can take a screenshot on my iphone without jailbreaking it, or installing a dev kit lol.

/cheap shot i know, i'm only joking.

 

[marefin]

i can access files tho (not certain system files maybe) for the most part i can. i said in another thread that i don't know jack about ssh so won't get into it. and really calling Android a "walled garden"?? HAH! +1 for being able to take screenshots, i do miss that ONE thing about the iPhone. tho i've learned to leave w/o it happily considering everything else i gained.

 

[Guamguy]

Android still prohibits you from basic things like file system access, ssh, etc. One point was it's still a walled garden.

I can take a screenshot on my iphone without jailbreaking it, or installing a dev kit lol.

/cheap shot i know, i'm only joking.

No it doesn't. There are file system apps. In fact, the Galaxy S comes with one. Also, the music or media player apps have access to the file system. That's how they search and show, all the media files inside an SD card.

 

[Guamguy]

I'm a dual user.

I have a iPhone 4 for personal use, and a HTC Droid Incredible for work. Both work fine.

The iPhone 4 definitely feels faster, than any Android i've used, but that's not saying that much, as my 2007 original iphone actually scrolls through large icons and webpages faster - it's just open gl es.

I don't know why my co-workers samsung feels faster than my incredible, especially when she's running 2.1 and i'm running 2.2, but it's noticeable. Wondering if it was HTC sense.

If your stuck on AT&T i would really say stay iOS. More apps and a way more customizable OS with far more people working in it.

Don't get me wrong, i love android, just look at my iphone

Your picture doesn't look like an Android really. It looks more like an HTC Touch Diamond from 2008.

iPhone cannot recreate the anchor on the bottom of HTC Sense with the phone button and the slider that moves into position when you swipe across homescreens.

iPhone 4 doesn't feel faster. Its looks smoother, because the GPU has a higher frame rate than what the Droid Incredible has, so you have smoother animation. That's why the Samsung Galaxy S looks smoother than the Droid Incredible. It's GPU is faster than the Droid Incredible's and as fast as the iPhone 4's. The UI is only pumping out more animation frames per second to give a better appearance of motion smoothness.

On the other hand, the Droid Incredible caches apps much faster than my Galaxy S and my iPod Touch. That's why it's faster launching apps, or flicking through multiple apps. iOS 4 ain't exactly quick in the multitasking department that's why people with 3GS and 3G are complaining its slow.

 

[JesseDegenerate]

No it doesn't. There are file system apps. In fact, the Galaxy S comes with one. Also, the music or media player apps have access to the file system. That's how they search and show, all the media files inside an SD card.

file managers are pointless when they don't come with root priv's.

And i have it A/B'd next to my droid incredible, it looks just like it I left off the sense phone bar cause you get more done with the icons/folders, You know, the iOS folder animation that looks a ton like an HTC draw?

And yes, i did have the sense phone bar there, but it's not as nine as my mino hd theme icons (personal taste)

As for it feeling faster, faster UI response through an open gl accelerated springboard does give the impression that the phone is overal faster and higher quality.

Guam, your under the impression that android itself is accelerated by your video hardware in your smartphone. It's not. It's software rendered. iOS is, hence noobies feeling that older iphones are faster than newer android phones.

While your right, the snapdragon is pretty beast launching apps (as it should be) it's 2010, and as you use the UI to access all facets of your phone, shouldn't the experience be better?

Gingerbread will fix this, as long as your phone meats the minimum requirements My brand new incredible just barely does lol. (meets exact minimums for processor speed and ram, so i guess i will get only one real update besides verizon stuff on my android phone) (mine came with froyo)

 

[jroc]

The messed up part about the hardware acceleration, Samsung supposedly did this with the Galaxy S line. But the file system on the Galaxy S line causing lag and freezing makes it a moot point...